ambana

Thank you everyone for your input.I will try to take everyone that will follow.All of your information has given me what I have been feeling,for a long time with this pack.I will be contacting the council,of what has been going on.hopefully there will be changes for the boys/families who decide to stay. ambana

Yes you are correct,6yrs tiger,7 wolf,8 bears,9 weblows 1st year,10 second year. Because all birthdays are not all the same.There could be 9 and half year olds with the arrow of light.kinder starts at 5 yrs old,so first would be 6 and that is the the grade they can become a tiger.Now I dont know what state you are in, so it could be different where you are.But that is how it is in CA.My eldest son is 10 and got his arrow of light in june.

No I am just a parent who has been involved in this pack for 6 years.5 of those years were under a different cub master.All I know is that they went to a training class in which my husband also attended.This is were my husband found out that the things he is doing is wrong.As for looking for a new pack.I am currently looking for one.We think we might have found one.With the local church.My husband and I are going to check it out.Hopefully this will be the one that,we will go with.I am also encouraging the mother of the boy to attend the meeting with us.My younger son is also a new wolf and attended the camp with this other child.Which was for 4 days and 3 nights.Where they earned about 4 belt loops,and a couple of patches.I agree it is time for us to move on.

I am sorry you dont think that a child of seven could go to summer camp.But that is were you are wrong.He indeed was a tiger last year.And did indeed go to summer camp.I dont know were you are from. but is the norm for us that are boys go to summer camp.The camp they attended was camp Wiley,up at running springs CA.And yes the parents did pay for him to go.that is why it does not seem right for him not to get his awards.when the mother tried to discuss this matter with the cub master.She was told.What goes on in that den, should only be discussed with that particular den leader.That each den takes care of thier own problems.When she tried to ask the den leader. The den leader said ask the cub master.When she went back to the cub master.He got very angry and said he could not deal with that problem.So that is why I found this site as a concerned mother. who also has four boys.To offer my help to this mother.Because you never know when it could be you in thier shoes.And I dont think any child she be left behind because of thier ability to pay.

In answer to your question.Yes they do the popcorn fundraiser,and also a carwash.Yes they have attended a training program.Even when I questioned them about the dues being so high.I was told that each den is different.And the leader could charge what they wanted for dues.Also the field trips they have went on.Did not cost anything,they went to the fire station and the local newspaper for a tour.I also have a older son.Who just finished cubscouts with the same pack.But his dues was not that costly.It was also a different cub master at the time.This master, if the kids do something wrong he makes them due pushups in front of the other boys.For punishment,this is very upsetting to me because this use to be a very fun group.And all the boys use to have a lot of fun.But it seems they are all walking a tight rope.And they dont know what they can or can not do.

First I am sorry I did not know I Was yelling.First it is the den dues we are talking about.the dues for the year is 100.00 dollars a year.The den leader wants that by first pack mtg.We have been told that if it is not paid no camp awards will be given.The parents were told that in front of the whole den of parents who have already paid.which is why I think it is unfair.I know for a fact that the childs only activity is boy scouts and no his parents dont drive a new car.the reason that i say he is being discriminated against, is that the den should have told every one.Before the summer camp. the child is only 7 yrs old.He does not understand why he is the only one not getting his awards.

HI I NEED HELP,MY SONS GROUP HAS ONE BOY.WHO IS UNABLE TO PAY HIS DUES,AT THE PRESENT TIME.THE DEN LEADER SAYS.IF HE DOES NOT PAY HE WILL BE UNABLE, TO GET THE AWARDS HE WORKED SO HARD FOR AT SUMMER CAMP.DOES IT SEEM RIGHT THAT BECAUSE HIS FAMILY HAS FALLING ON HARD TIMES THAT HE SHOULD BE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST.AFTER ALL HE IS ONLY A 7 YEAR OLD CHILD,AND DOES NOT UNDERSTAND.

HI EVERYONE,I HAVE A PROBLEM.ONE OF THE SCOUTS.IN MY SONS TROOP IS HAVING A HARD TIMES. HIS DEN LEADER SAYS IF HE DOES NOT PAY HIS DUES.HE WILL BE UNABLE TO GET THE AWARDS HE WORKED SO HARDS IN CAMP FOR. PLEASE TELL ME IF YOU THINK THIS IS PROPER,OR IS IT DISCRIMINATION.

PLEASE WILL SOME ONE GIVE ME SOME ADVICE.ON THIS TOPIC

HI I HAVE A QUESTION ONE OF THE BOYS.IN MY SONS PACK IS UNABLE TO PAY HIS DUES.AND THE DEN LEADER SAID IF HE DOES NOT PAY.HE WILL BE UNABLE TO GET HIS AWARDS.THAT HE EARNED AT CAMP.I THINK IT IS UNFAIR.FOR HIM TO BE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST BECAUSE.HIS FAMILY IS UNABLE TO PAY DUES.WHAT DO YOU THINK.