Fishman

This is America 2012. A nation of fatties. Scouting is not immune any more than just about any activity. About the only place I've gone too where fat isn't a majority is when my wife goes to races (5k+). People just don't take care of themselves.

Ok so we went to the meeting and it looks like things will be alright. The charter is through what is basically the school PTA. The religious aspects don't seem to be stressed and it looks like a pretty good group. I appreciate the input I received here.

"I guess I still think the Oath would be best and easiest to follow the path that the Pledge of Allegence has.. It still has "under God" in it, because many would be upset with it being removed.. But an Athiest can remain silent during this line, and still be considered respectful of his country in his version of the Pledge.. I am sure an atheist group has done something to remove the silent pause, if doing the pledge within their own group." As someone who grew up atheist while attending Catholic school for most of the time until I was 18, and is now over 40, I've never worried to much a

I have to say I've been encouraged by what I've been reading here. Yes I expect there will be those who are dogmatic on the issue, but that I can deal with. We will see how the recruitment meeting goes tonight.

"So are you strong atheists, meaning that you have no doubt that there is no possibility of God or gods, or are you weak atheists, and just see no signs that there is a God or gods." One of the ironies of atheism if that if you are a strong atheist, you are exhibiting faith. I allow for the possibility, I just count that as a very low possibility, and even lower for the versions of god taught by most organized religions. God can not be disproved logically, I just see no evidence or need. I myself am not anti-religion in that you won't see me ever complaining about "In God we Trus

This is an old thread, I know but the topic I'm sure comes up every year. I actually became an atheist while I was in scouts (no relation) and before a priest tried to touch me inappropriately (no relation to it either). My son is 7 and I've raised him so far "religion neutral". I've never mentioned gods or god one way or another. Not to long ago someone at school did and he came home and asked about it. I asked what do you think? And his response was he didn't think it was real. Then of course being 7 he gets the scouting presentation at his public school (as a libert