MichiganScouter

Where would you like to go? For SBR it's fairly easy, just search for New River Whitewater Outfitters, you'll find several. Instead of searching for Northern Tier, search for 'Boundary Waters'. Replace 'Sea Base' with 'Scuba and Snorkeling adventures in...'. Philmont is both harder and easier. There are so many great places in the US to hike and camp in the mountains that you'll have to think about the region first and then narrow it down from there. If you want to stay in the desert southwest reach out to the Navajo, or the Hopi or the Cherokee and see if they have programs. The addition of the cultural/historical element adds to the trip.

I agree that they have their place, but it's actually easy to find another outfitter who will put together the same program, or a better one customized to exactly what you want, for the same or less. AND they won't kick you out at the last minute based on a measurement that the medical community consistently criticizes.

HOT TIP - Don't go to the Scouts BSA High Adventure Camps. Other outfitters offer the same programs (or better) for less, AND don't exclude people based on BMI - a scientifically invalid measure of health and fitness. Don't discriminate against the people who might need a little time in the out of doors, include them.