scoutdad_tx

The Corps of Discovery is not a co-ed OA. It is a service society, not an honor society. You're comparing apples to oranges.

As for Boys Scouts becoming co-ed. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the United States one of the few countries where the Scouting program is not completly co-ed?

Webelos want to do BS programs, and now so does Venturing...

I agree that maybe Webelos do like to try the BS programs. But, I think it is the BS that wants to do the Venturing stuff. We have a lot of boys in our Troop that wish they could do the Venturing stuff out Crew does. Not until recently could these boys do the Scuba. There are numerous other activities that Venturers can do that Boy Scouts can't.

When I heard about the changes to NYLT, I about hit the floor. I understand what the "powers that be" are trying to do, however I believe to make this work, will require some changes to NYLT that don't need to be made. NYLT is modeled around the "patrol method". Venturing does not utilize this. Venturing does have an excellent set of "leadership" opportunities. Why not take VLSC and the Kodiak programs and "tweak" them to fall more in line with NYLT and Wood Badge syllabi. Instead of trying to fit the Venturing program into the Boy Scout program.

I just read through this entire thing. I dont usually reply to any of these forums. But I think this one has hit a nerve. I must say, there appears to be a lot of people that just don't get it. We are now in the 21st century. Let's start leading and embracing change. Or you'll just get left behind. Especially when these youth we serve get older and start taking care of us, you dont want them to wonder why we didn't do everything we could. Remember, we are not doing this for ourselves; we are doing this for the youth. Regardless of gender.

I also wanted to comment on the amount of inconsistencies and lack of knowledge on some. I recommend that you do your homework before posting on any forum. Here are just to examples that stand out on this thread;

Example one referencing a comment about Wood Badge; Wood Badge has been open to registered adults. You can register as an adult when you are 18. Therefore Wood Badge has been open to anyone 18 and older. It is just recently, 2010, that it has changed to allow anyone 18 or older, regardless of their registered position. Adult or youth.

Example two about young ladies in Venturing uniforms; first off, Venturing has no set uniform. The Crew decides what their uniform will be. So, technically, having the camp require them to wear the spruce uniform is not valid. And, yes they can wear the tan uniform, if they are 18+ and a registered adult outside of Venturing. So, therefore it is false to say that young ladies can only wear a Venturing uniform. (if your talking about the spruce one)

I know Im going to get blasted, but as I said this thread had hit a nerve.