to answer the question about girl scouts
i'm a ten year girl scout with lots of camping experience. our girls start overnight camping in first grade, with their first opportunity for a week long camp in our council coming in fourth grade. these girls are nine, having just finished third grade. however, i have a younger brother who was in boy scouts and i think girl scouts works a little differently. it seems in boy scouts almost everyone goes to summer camp and they go together as a troop. this isnt the case for girl scout camp. it's completely independant.
