NewCubCC

This is exactly the situation I am trying to avoid with the small group I've inherited.

My question here then, is:

When do you fish and when do you cut bait?

(Meaning--when do you know it's not able to continue?)

This guy will have Bears next year. The Wolf parents say their boy's books came home signed off and their kids say they never did certain assignments. I have no idea what they've done or not done since I just inherited all this recently. Some of the parents are saying it's just too fast and they've talked with him, but he's all about speed. The parents say he started in October and finished them in December or January. It's mostly him signing off requirements and not a family thing at all and the couple of books I saw would support this. I came in early spring and they were all signed off and had their badges by that time, so it appears to be true, although I didn't know he hadn't started till October if that's true. The CM is not fully trained either and he seems to be part of the problem on the surface at least. Actually, a couple of committee members, the COR who recruited me and I are the only fully trained adults.

I agree that it sounds like a lot of "I" and not much "we", but that's because I'm just shooting a bunch of stuff around in my head right now and it's not progressed past myself other than these parents felt the need to tell me certain things. I want to get some things sorted out myself before I try to offer any assistance where it may not be wanted/needed. I hope to start sorting out with others this week.

I like the planning meeting idea which I'd already had on my list to suggest. How far in advance do you plan? Quarterly or so comes to my mind as a good amount to start off with (like summer first then to Christmas.....). At some point I've got to address the parents concerns over his signing off their kids books. The parents should be the majority of the signatures and that wasn't true with the couple of books I saw. Further suggestions????

Also, there are no Webelo's at this point. They've all dropped out and won't be returning (another long story). I have one boy that wants to join as a first year, but he'd be alone. Any advice on that one?

I again would like to say that all these people seem to really enjoy being leaders and love the kids, but they've been without direction for a really long time (like 2-3 years). It seems like it's been a free for all during that time and we've lost nearly 20 boys in the process. We're down to somewhere around 15 registred and half that active.

Thanks for any suggestions. I really need policed too, but there isn't anyone around to do that for (or to) me . That's why I'm bugging you guys.

Thanks,

CC

Hey all,

I am the guy that inherited a drowning pack and need help. It's the end of the year and I'm still struggling, but making progress. I need some advice for advancements. I've got a parent that is a DL for me. Basically, it's an ok arrangement (he's partially trained so far). This guy, if given free reign, would advance these kids so fast that there would be a terrible influx of 9 year old Eagle Scouts--ha ha.

I think especially as this pack is in trouble now, that we need to focus on the "fun" of cubbing and maybe that new outdoor award. Now, here where I live, outdoors is readily available. I think if we focus on how much fun we had this summer then go back to school and recruit again with boys talking about all the fun they had, that this pack can continue to grow. It'll also give us time to work more with our leaders on giving a quality program not a quick one.

Now, that said, the CM doesn't participate much if at all, so I need to get him onboard first, but I want to slow down this DL and get the quality. I have no UC to go to at this time (Transition time at council level), and won't till fall, so that won't help.

Anyone have any ideas on how this sounds to them? Can we as a committee have the DL slow down and persue quality over quick?

Now, remember that these are parents that have been good to run this pack when it had nothing to go on, so I don't want to alienate anyone, but we need structure and rules and guidance.