jwall

Dan, Thanks for the reply. Well we have no boy leadership so hence why something needs to change. Follow my thought, it should be older boys show younger boys. Correct? Well we have the void of older boys, see they have piano lessons and such and cant come to meetings and they are busy and stuff (a new Eagles parent explanation to me as to why they couldn't come to a meeting or camp out in 18 months). So who else is going to show the younger boys how its done? See our problem? If you have a solution of what to do let me know. I have racked my brain on this one. I can not

Bevah, Thanks for the advice. I would like to say I do try and introduce new ideas or fun with the younger boys on the camp outs. Tried to do a dutch oven cooking demo but that got blown out of the water as thats the SM "thingy". As for projecting my attitude towards my son and influencing his decision for "should we stay or should we go now" as proclaimed by The Clash, I let him choose as this is for him. He came up to me and said "Hey Pop, how come we dont do anything in the meetings except play these dumb games like dodgeball? When are we going to learn something?" Mind you my so

Thanks Lisabob, I agree it is always harder to lead than follow and I personally think thats what happend in our meeting with the SM, they were torn between should we stay with what we know or let me take over. Change can be a scary thing. I know my son and the other Scouts that are having problems will all be going together so I am sure that will ease the transition. As for perfect, one can only wish. I just want one that is actually doing close to the program not this mutated ball of wax. J

I am enclosing my replies after the questions, it will probably make it easier Jwall, I've read your post but it seems a bit vague to me. You say the Scoutmaster runs the Troop like a dictatorship - his way or no way - so I ask for a bit more information about your troop. What exactly is 'his way'? His way is as follows, he does it all, the ASM's are told not to do a thing, not help out, not run a skill for the boys (ie have a hiking demonstration), or show them altertnative ways to get merit badges (we have sea world by us and they held a camp, more boys would hav signed up to

Im sorry about your lack of volunteers, we have tons. You can borrow some of ours if you need to. Just kidding. So since you are biased about SM's, let me ask you this; What would you consider being a role model to the boys then... Jon

Thanks Beav, I think we will stick it out for a few months and see if there is monumental change as he swears its in the works (supposedly for 2 years now) As for stepping up to the plate as SM (that is how this whole snafu began. Everyone supposedly wanted change but no one would step up. I put myself on the chopping block.) So ya fun times. Jon

Thanks Beav. Well as an ASM I find it pretty sad that he believes its a boy run troop, and no mentoring or guidance comes from the adults. I was reading Green Bar Bills site a link I found through here and we have the Gang mentality. We have lost at least 15 boys in 9 months because nothing is getting done correctly, we have no uniform code, patrol spirit is out the door, ASM's and parents who want to help and do things for the boys whatever it may be get pushed aside to a SM who says my way or no way. As for my boy being happy or the boys in general being happy I would say a 6. Its b

Well about the cup of coffee comment... I had a grin ear to ear as I heard from one ASM who has been here for years said "I took him out to a nice dinner told him my concerns and said you dont have the time to dedicate to the boys." He said the SM looked at him and said "No I will not step down and you cant make me" LOL so i guess it is best to leave quietly with the others who are upset at the way things are being run. Its a shame they will loose 9 + parents and ASMs and boys over this Thanks everyone

Thanks for your reply, Thing is hes not training or doing anything. Isnt our core program based on outdoor activities? I am just so frustrated. I agree with trying not to try and fix a broken troop. I have been with them for 9 months and it gets worse not better. As for starting a new troop how long and how hard is the process? Thanks again

Hi Folks first time posting so please bare with me if I go off course. Our current Troop from what I have gathered from a few trusty sources is way off course, We have no boy leadership at all and the current SM runs things like a dictatorship. His way or no way. Well we (a few parents) tried to vote him out; but he is still there due to him and the committee chair playing a little dirty (calling in people on the committee who never show up to any meetings, CC plainly being on his side and not partial and voting, and ridiculing the parents/ASMs for their concerns etc...). So be it if th