glocker21

I tend to agree that a heavy duty coat in the gore tex type parka with zip out liner OR the heavy duty M65 style coat. I have noticed that there is a tan model.

I think that the parka style with the zip out liner is the Better of the two.

I agree that better outer wear is in order. I still love my red wool shirt jacket...it survived many trips to Philmont and still is in good order.

I have purchased a red polar fleece vest and jacket from Wearguard, they are very sturdy and more inportantly...WARM ( better when polar fleece vest is worn over the polar fleece jacket)

As for the outer layer I use a Red/Black parka with zip out liner.

I like the red wool watch cap with light gore tex liner.

The key is LAYERS, LAYERS, LAYERS !!!

Seems to me that when I was growing up ( a reallly long time ago) we were required to wear our uniforms whenever we were at a scouting event...including camping.

Our Pack and a Troop that I am an advisor of requires the same standards as national expects for the scouts. As for leaders we require tan shirt and OD/Forest trousers.

When camping we where our uniforms but have taken the initiative to "customize" a little. We ALL like the Tan Carhartt twill shirts, We remove the little carhartt tag above the right breast pocket and then swap out the carhartt buttons for official BSA buttons. We buy heavy weight Carhartt type twill ( or use a tan carhartt shirt for matching material)...VIOLA !!! a Heavy Duty Camping uniform shirt.

As for trousers...well I personally use my old Law Enforcement Uniform trousers (Immigration Service) in Forest Green.

I prefer a 3/4 Inch Brown leather belt that is tooled in a Basket Weave Pattern.

It seems to us that the kids who are wreeking havoc on their uniforms NEED the lee way but the adult leaders NEED to look professional.

My .02