dpicarelli

I don't know how to make this any simpler The person was arrested and convicted once before for doing what we just turned evidence over to the police for doing to our oginization. and YES I understand the charter organization OKAYED this person to be the scout leader in their church. So now that that is clear the problem is the council was made aware of this and still let her be involved in another unit.It is very simple the arrest and plea bargain dates are prior to the theft here. And again according to the council she joined before they required a police back ground. but never mind she was just arrested for violating her probation from the last arrest one of the conditions of probation was to never be involved in a leadership or officer position in any orginization(assumably till her probation is complete...which it is not). so she sits in jail while our case is being investigated. Now since a time line can be proved and that council was notified and her membership should have been revoked AFTER her previous conviction they should be held liable which most likely a judge will decide in civil court. So I don't need to know how to get in touch with scout execs boss anymore this will most likely be my last post since in a matter of 2 days some of it is getting resolved and unlike other people with 8000 posts I have a troop and a Pack to run in the real world. thanks for your insights and opinions when this finally runs its final course i will give an update

Mr. White 2 quick points

First your assumption that I did not go to training is very arrogant.

second Maybe I am not explaining myself clearly so I will try to simplify it even further.

There is a set of scout executives and council committee that have been negligent in their duties by allowing certain individuals to ruin 2 scouting programs in thier council region almost a third and to let them move onto a fourth in under 4 years. They have an obligation both as a BSA council and morally as individuals to at the very least warn these charters about their past performance. I never once asked them to be the police or bring charges please re read my post I clearly state the parents turned the evidence over to the police. I am trying to keep the council from being sued the parents have hired a lawyer to sue them civily and the laywer is suggesting to sue the council for allowing this "con" to go on. and just in case you are not up to date on law, this is not criminal you don't need all 12 jury members to say guilty you just need one more than half and depending on the amount it will go in front of a single magestrate and when you have 2 priest a reverand and a deacon on the witness stand saying council never told us of these past problems guess who doesn't look so good now do you see the point i am trying to make probably not but it is a free country open to all opinions, so I still welcome yours

Mr. White,

If your information is correct than there is a problem with the whole organization.If you know people are trouble and have had complaints about them and they cost scouts their charters at different churches civic centers etc and do nothing THAT is a problem and not very scout like

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I will not go into a lot of detail....I could fill a book. I was asked to take over a cubscout pack.It was being mismanaged by a husband and wife team main issue was missing funds. I stepped up as cubmaster. The 14 webelos that crossed over did not stay with our charter because the husband ran the boyscouts. So they got a new charter and our 4 webelos are not staying because of the bad blood. I just recently resigned as cubmaster so I could become scout master to stop the insanity at the request of our charter executive officer. These people are like parasites they move from charter to charter and from pack to troop and leave the places dessimated and charters revoked. The wife has been arrested for stealing from church envelopes over $3,000.00 I have the arrest report fact not fiction or gossip. Every parent who has complained to council executive officer was told "only the charter can remove them" so..now the charter has removed them. Parents have complained to council about foul language, missing money, camping trips that consist of playing nintendo for a weekend in a friends cabin. When I complained and showed them the arrest report I was told "If the charter org is OK with them there is nothing we can do" I feel this is gross negligence on the councils behalf and if these parents have their way not only our the husband and wife going to get sued so is the council. they already dropped off the old books to the police and requested a formal investigation.

I personally feel council dropped the ball on this and should not have let these people go on in leadership positions based on past performance. as far as the arrest goes I was told "they joined prior to the new adult applications where we do a criminal background and until they quit and rejoin there is nothing we can do"

I feel there is something SOMEONE can do.

If you have a problem with your scout executive who do you go to next?