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As for including the fleur-de-lis, the document CNYScouter linked to says the patch MUST include one of the "BSA corporate identifiers", one of which is the "solid fleur-de-lis."  It also has specific guidelines for how the "identifier" is to be displayed.

 

It also has specific guidelines for CSP's.

 

Hopefully your "official BSA vendor" is aware of all of these requirements.

I'm sure they're aware.

Thank you guys so much for your opinions and insight...I really appreciate the help!  

There's another issue: Who's making the patches?

 

BSA only allows authorized vendors to reproduce BSA-owned logos, such as Class B (among others). So you'd have to use one of those vendors or risk, well, someone getting ticked off and sicing BSA legal on you.

It is an official BSA vendor:  Sunshine Emblem, Inc.  The artwork has already been approved on their end.  I'm just concerned about the usage of the fleur-de-lis, since the company would only care about the content of the patches rather than the context.

Thank you all for your replies so far - as you can see, it's a bit of a grey area issue.  A few points for clarification -

The CSPs would not be copies of the defunct council's CSPs, but rather patches with new art bearing the name of the old council.

As to who would give permission, I would assume it'd be the current council, since they currently control the territory once covered by the defunct council in question.  I suppose the main issue would be A) do we need the current council's permission, B) or is it just a matter of Scout spirit/courtesy?

Also, would it be legal to use the fleur-de-lis?  It seems to me the main issue is the fact that the patches are a CSP shape, and CSPs seem to have a bit more stringent guidelines attached to them.

This is all being done for our camp, and as a nod to tradition and history, but I want to do things correctly and under the proper auspices of Scouting.

Thanks again

Hello all --

I have searched and can find no good topics here or elsewhere dealing with this particular question, so I decided to just ask.  

If a party was interested in making a fund-raising set for a scout camp's upcoming anniversary (jacket patch surrounded by CSP designs), would they be allowed to use the name of a prior council on the CSPs?  This would be a private issue, not one done by the council office, and would contain the name of the council that existed when the camp was formed, which is different than the current one (due to merger).

Basically, I'm curious as to whether any particular rule/regulation touches on this, or if it would be up to a matter of taste.

Thank you all for your help.