So I'm splitting from the "Signs that your unit might be adult led" thread. Not going to try and repost stuff from over there.   I do think having multiple groups coming in at different times is part of the problem.  Especially since the three different packs had three different leader/parent models, especially on the Webelos level. One pack had a DL who started BS leader training early, has a lot of outdoor experience, and started the "transition" as Webelos 1s.   Second pack had a similar