Tampa Turtle 1011 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Here is the situation: During a meeting an unknown boy sneaks into the hut and defaces another Patrol's Patrol Box. Who should discipline the boy(s) the SM or the SPL/PLC? Link to post Share on other sites
Eagle732 27 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 SPL/PLC with SM consent (so things don't get too crazy) This is just my opinion Link to post Share on other sites
Tampa Turtle 1011 Posted May 14, 2012 Author Share Posted May 14, 2012 That is what I suggested. Link to post Share on other sites
fred8033 1593 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 What level of defacing? Using a knife to cut words into it? Permanent marker? Ketchup? Other? Link to post Share on other sites
Beavah 205 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Execution by firing squad staffed by da patrol whose box was defaced. Usin' paintballs of course. B Link to post Share on other sites
Tampa Turtle 1011 Posted May 14, 2012 Author Share Posted May 14, 2012 (Mind you I have only seen photoss) Mostly paint. No words. But it was the most lovingly cared for Patrol box. Link to post Share on other sites
dennis99ss 10 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 When things go viral....one little things builds into another, and builds into another, and builds into another, each increasing in severity, because the boys seem to build upon the bad things that happen, have a troop meeting, by the SM, assisted by the SPL, to "lay down the law" and set things straight. It can be used as a teaching moment as well. On one off things, see if the SPL can handle it, with some advise if necessary. Link to post Share on other sites
raisinemright 13 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Sounds like the proper path is for the SPL to hand the lad a brand new pack of sandpaper Link to post Share on other sites
Eagledad 2779 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 >>Who should discipline the boy(s) the SM or the SPL/PLC? Link to post Share on other sites
Twocubdad 665 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Since "discipline" is the training necessary to prevent future bad behavior, I would say that training should be led by the Scouts (with the usual supervision and coaching from the adults). If they're looking for ideas for what that training should be, I'd suggest the entire troop learn what it takes to clean up such vandalism and perhaps some additional practice in how to clean anything else which needs it. Of course if you really mean "punishment" that's a different deal, especially since the perps are unknown. If they were known, punishment would be up to their parents, not the troop and certainly not the youth. The troop adult leadership may decide that since the perps are unable to behave as Scouts they should take a break from being Scouts for a time. I also think making amends for their wrong doing requires making things right with the patrol whose gear was damaged. Link to post Share on other sites
Tokala 16 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Since I just renewed my youth protection training... It states that only adults are to discpline Scouts. Link to post Share on other sites
dg98adams 18 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 I read over this post and decided to post my opinion. Discipline? There's 2 choices: If someone saw him do it and he admits guilt. #1 - Send him home for a month of meetings.... or #2 - Hand him sand paper/paint to make it right. His choice If no one saw him actually do it, and NO ONE ELSE admits guilt. Hand every Scout, other than the Patrol whose box it is, sand paper/paint for some cheerful service. Link to post Share on other sites
BDPT00 41 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 I think it's a non-issue ... nobody was hurt or humiliated. It was an innocent prank, and should be encouraged (depending upon which units condone that kind of thing, of course). It will happen in real life, and the offended patrol needs to man-up. It's a growth experience, and now they can do it to the next patrol (the Snipes!). Sounds like a fun tradition, and it originated with the boys. Leave it alone, and see where it goes. BDPT00 Link to post Share on other sites
bacchus 10 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 What Tokala said. Only adults are to discipline the scouts. Otherwise I believe they call it hazing. Link to post Share on other sites
Tampa Turtle 1011 Posted May 14, 2012 Author Share Posted May 14, 2012 BDP...yes paint wars. Could be interesting. Perhaps the offending party will have to sing for his punishment. Link to post Share on other sites
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