Trevorum 24 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Very interesting new report issued by Baylor University. http://scouting.org/filestore/pdf/210-045_WB.pdf Link to post Share on other sites
Oak Tree 15 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 I agree, it's a lot of interesting data. The biggest problem with data like this is that it doesn't address causality at all. All it does is provide correlation. Does being an Eagle Scout really help develop some of these things? I'm sure it does. But some of them could just be from the fact that smart kids with perseverance and good parents are more likely to earn Eagle, and smart kids with perseverance and good parents are also likely to have other success in life too. Really hard to separate. You'd want some kind of random-chance kind of effect to try to determine any sort of causality. Link to post Share on other sites
Trevorum 24 Posted April 11, 2012 Author Share Posted April 11, 2012 You nailed it right off; this is more PR than science. I'm not disputing the data or the findings, but the conclusions are self-serving. Link to post Share on other sites
RememberSchiff 3627 Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 IMO, the survey questions are not sufficient in scope or consideration to answer the study question/purpose. There are really no questions about family, though there is one question about how close you are with family, neighbors, co-workers and the last question "If you had a son would you want them to be a member of the Boy Scouts" is as weak as its grammar (professors?). There are many goal questions but none family specific. No question about continuing education or involvement in your child's education. No questions about military service... No questions about current involvement with Scouting (very odd) also if you were not a scout do you wish you had been. No questions about driving record, criminal record, drug use or other risky behavior other than alcohol. And on it goes... Seemed weak to me. My $0.02 Link to post Share on other sites
Tampa Turtle 1011 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I found the no difference between Eagles and other Scouts of some interest. I have to agree that it is a "light" study-the kind that institutions commission in order to reinforce what they already believe. I have to agree in my limited observation many of the boys who make Eagle tend to be a somewhat self-selected group (that is their parents mostly doing the selecting). Those kids--in general--seem to have pretty involved parents as a support system. Also what about scouts vs. other sports? Link to post Share on other sites
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