Forgetting things and singing for them, while that may have been the norm back in the day, heck I remember singing for stuff, it is now considered hazing by BSA   Yah, I must have missed da memo.   I confess I really dislike ever-expanding definitions, eh? Things can be a poor choice without becoming an issue of criminality.   Hazing has a legal definition in many states. It is a criminal act. So I think we have to be awfully careful about accusing any youth or adults of "hazing" un