nldscout 18 Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 If you read the police reports very carefully, you will notice a few things that differ from the news story. 1. They didn't duct tape him up, just a piece of tape on his mouth. 2. The youth that asked him to accompany him to the camp was not one of the 4 charged, infact is only briefly listed in the report. 3. There is no mention of cell phone pictures, the report does not mention it, only pictures the deputies took. Other than the 21 yr old, the camp staff here committed several errors which are going to cause the DA a ton of problems trying to prosecute this. Its going to be a long road if the youths get attorneys and fight this in court. Link to post Share on other sites
evmori 11 Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Its going to be a long road if the youths get attorneys and fight this in court. And if these youth are guilty, they should just accept the consequences for what they did. Link to post Share on other sites
nldscout 18 Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 "And if these youth are guilty, they should just accept the consequences for what they did." In the old days we would have fessed up if we had done a dumb thing like this, in this day and age, that is not a smart thing to do. The 3 teenagers involved could have the rest of thier life marked by this. I have seen to many youth marked for life when a parent could have handled the issue, but they usually abrogated thier parental rights by not teaching thier children the difference between right and wrong. This week alone, I get to see 4 youths in court aged 16-19 for various stupid things they did, that if there was a responsible parent at home guiding them, they most likely would not be in front of me. Link to post Share on other sites
Tokala 16 Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Over the past weekend, I had a chance to speak with a friend who has heard from the staff at the camp. I will not expand on the story, but will tell you this....the article is accurate. From the use of the racial slur, duct tape, drinking urine, and the youth lured away. The act was planned during the week of camp and was not a spontanteous "prank". Link to post Share on other sites
jr56 92 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 If correct, the fact that it was pre-planned makes it even more disgusting. Link to post Share on other sites
xlpanel 10 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Did they actually make him drink, or was it just threatened? Link to post Share on other sites
evmori 11 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Did they actually make him drink, or was it just threatened? What's the difference~ Link to post Share on other sites
GernBlansten 10 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 The aftertaste? Link to post Share on other sites
xlpanel 10 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Alot. In court the boys can successfully argue their actual intent to force the kid to drink vs. just scare the kid. On another scenario, how about a group of 4 boys jumping one, wrapping up his head in a blanket, and then spraying bodyspray on his head? Would that be any different? Would you want prosecution for that? Link to post Share on other sites
OldGreyEagle 5 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 lets see, 4 on 1, depriving someone of their mobility and sight, the terror of not knowing what will come next, feeling something sprayed on you, not knowing what it is for at least some period of time... Sounds intriguing, if it happened to you, what would you want done? Link to post Share on other sites
evmori 11 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Whether they made him drink it or not, what they did is wrong in so many ways! Aftertaste! Now that's funny! Link to post Share on other sites
eagle1977 10 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 xlpanel, I get the concept of devil's advocate but let's not stray too far from the root problem here. Body spray can and will wash off. Urine by its very nature is human waste and while it too will wash off the effect will be far longer lasting! This was not a prank, this was a willful attempt to terrorize this young man and put him "in his place". The four individuals that decided to dole out his punishment did not live up to any of the basic tenets of Boy Scouting (you remember those don't you the Scout Oath and Law?). They all need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law regardless if this will scar them for the remainder of their lives, likely it will the offended 12 year old they kidnapped and assaulted! Link to post Share on other sites
xlpanel 10 Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 Has it actually been verified through testing that it was urine in the bottles, and not just colored water or juice? And It seems that spraying someone with bodyspray against their will is alot worse than threating them to drink urine against their will, but not following through. Link to post Share on other sites
Lisabob 13 Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 I really cannot believe you're trying to justify this sort of behavior. Grow up. Link to post Share on other sites
evmori 11 Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 You really don't get it do you xlpanel? What these kids did was against the law! Oh wait! We all know how you feel about that since you don't feel kids having porn is not illegal. Link to post Share on other sites
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