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I really think my council is in serious financial trouble. Why you ask? Because after this weekend, no events will have patches.  As for the event this weekend, they are only handing out 1/3 of the patch. Long story short, The patch for the last week and this week's events had 2 segments that were identical, with the  2 additional segments for last week's event and this week's event. Council did not order enough of the 2 primary segments, and may not have enough of the segment for this weekend. And this is not the first time the council has done this. One year they had so many attend, and want their patches, the council had to place a second order, which cost them more money than if they ordered the requested amount. But this year they are adamant on no more patches.

If you cannot afford patches, even when budgeted, I think the council is in serious financial trouble.

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1 hour ago, scoutldr said:

Is not the cost of the patch part of the registration fee for the event?

It is in my council, although there is no guarantee that either patches or t-shirts will be available for those doing late registration or walk in.

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11 hours ago, MikeS72 said:

It is in my council, although there is no guarantee that either patches or t-shirts will be available for those doing late registration or walk in.

Sounds reasonable.

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15 hours ago, MikeS72 said:

It is in my council, although there is no guarantee that either patches or t-shirts will be available for those doing late registration or walk in.

I recall some events, patches were only available to "early-bird registration". 

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24 minutes ago, DuctTape said:

I recall some events, patches were only available to "early-bird registration". 

I know of many events where patches to cover budgeted attendance were not ordered, with attendance reaching twice budgeted attendance.

And so the "FAILURES TO DELIVER THE PROMISE," continue.

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On 11/4/2022 at 5:13 PM, scoutldr said:

Is not the cost of the patch part of the registration fee for the event?

 

On 11/5/2022 at 10:46 AM, SiouxRanger said:

I know of many events where patches to cover budgeted attendance were not ordered, with attendance reaching twice budgeted attendance.

Sorry for the delay in response, Just got back.

Yes , patches were budgeted and considered part of the fee. However Council has a habit of not ordering things, or ignoring quantities requested. And we do tend to order extra event patches because we A) use them as thank you gifts for sponsors and non-Scouting event staff,  B) just in case we have more folks attend than planned, and C) the local OA chapter buys the excess at cost, and sells them to raise funds for camp and camperships.

Best example is when I ordered a ton of supplies via my DE, when I had one. Long story short, only thing  the DE ordered was 1/2 the number of patches requested, Only Scouts who paid on time, and 5 non-Scouting adults who sponsored and/or worked. Late payment folks (which would have been covered if the request was filled fully), and no Scouters got patches. As for supplies, I ran around with my head chopped off getting supplies the days before and of the event, and paying significantly more in the process.

On a different note, supposedly our SE and newest DE made a brief appearance at camp. No idea what the new DE looks like. As for the SE, if I saw him, I did not recognize him. And this weekend's event was a council level family camp out, yet we had no professional support. Last weekend, there was another district's event, yet council declared it an all hands event. So no pros were at our event, including our own DE.

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I have only had one instance where a DE overstepped his bounds and thought he needed to micro manage the Course Director. The Course Director finally told the DE, "you pay the bills, I'll take care of the rest."  After that, everything was fine.

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