yknot 1233 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 In an email I received today from the state Methodist conference it includes a notation that the UMC/BSA Affiliation and Facility Use agreements have been finalized as of December 15th. Final versions to be used going forward are on the methodistscouter.org website. I've read these several times and perhaps I missed it but I was struck by the high cap of $7.5 million per incident/$23 million total for general liability claims. Link to post Share on other sites
PACAN 200 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Any feedback on how this went or is going in your local councils? Link to post Share on other sites
5thGenTexan 481 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 17 minutes ago, PACAN said: Any feedback on how this went or is going in your local councils? I was told by the DE that the general liability policy from BSA was going to cover us for the facilities use agreement,. Link to post Share on other sites
PACAN 200 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I was just wondering how many are still meeting at their old UMC churches (FUA) how many were able to find new sponsors how many are sponsored by their council how many unfortunately folded Link to post Share on other sites
KublaiKen 159 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 We and our "affiliated" Pack have found a new CO, the Episcopalian church a few doors down. For now at least we are under a facilities use agreement with our old UMC, but the plan is to move over to the Episcopalian church over time. Link to post Share on other sites
5thGenTexan 481 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 4 hours ago, PACAN said: I was just wondering how many are still meeting at their old UMC churches (FUA) how many were able to find new sponsors how many are sponsored by their council how many unfortunately folded We moved two troops and a pack to a local American Legion Post, New COR is an Eagle from the Troop. Aside from getting the right people to sign the right place and get all the paper work straight x 3 it was a pretty seamless endeavor. We own our meeting place, so the facilities use agreement with the Methodist Church is to use their sanctuary for COH a couple of times a year and they have a big gym with a kitchen we use sometimes. Link to post Share on other sites
jcousino 59 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 "We own our meeting place, " Not sure how that's works as the troop can own nothing as it a fully owned part of it charter partner. I let some of the real lawyers here explain how that would be possible as the troop is not is own personality. all property belongs to the charter group or council if the group folds? Link to post Share on other sites
EEEagle74 9 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I'm the current Board of Trustees Chair for a UMC congregation that chartered a Troop for 101 years. We also chartered a Cub Scout Pack and a Girl's Troop. In the past, I served as Scoutmaster for the Troop (among many other Unit, District, and Council positions) and my wife (a former Scout Office employee) acted as the COR for the church. The Troops and Pack elected to execute an Affiliation Agreement with the church, with the Council acting as Chartering Organization. The cutover process proved difficult due to the on-line Recharter web application's inability to process the new Affiliation Agreement cutover process. Fortunately, one of my wife's superpowers is the ability to make heinously-designed web applications work. Prior to the cutover, our church was one of the most conscientious COs you will find. For the last 15 years or so, church members served as SM and/or ASM, with some youth from the church belonging to the units. The Council, the new CO, is headquartered 100 miles away. One of the BSA execs in Texas has been the acting SE for the Council for a couple of years, supported by an office employee who acts as registrar and administrative support for the Council. The Council employs no DEs and is awaiting a shotgun marriage to an adjacent Council (or Councils). There were only 2-3 UMC COs in the Council, so we don't have many peers. Bottom line: the units traded a quality CO for the illusion of a CO. Cool. 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites
RememberSchiff 3303 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Interesting side note... Gloversville, NY - Town stepped up to become Troop 7's new charter organization as the Foothills Methodist Church which had been CO for 60 years could no longer perform the duties. “Basically, it’s (Troop 7) going to have to be completely redone from the ground up. Where it stands, they have three active Boy Scouts in it, and no troop committee, so we’re going to be starting-over new.”, according to Town Clerk (and new COR) Jenni Mazur. “We will be discussing giving them a meeting place within the city. This is going to be a combined thing where boys from Gloversville and Johnstown will be joining.” The city must pay a $75 annual fee and she and Mayor Vince DeSantis must undergo Boy Scouts of America certification training to serve on the newly reconstituted Boy Scout Troop 7 committee, which will consist of seven members. More at source: https://leaderherald.com/gloversville-local-news-johnstown-local-news/local-news/2023/01/gloversville-set-to-charter-boy-scout-troop-7/ Link to post Share on other sites
KublaiKen 159 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 I wonder if there will be a challenge since BSA requires a belief in a god. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now