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BSA did away with regions and areas on June 1 and replaced them with  16 Service Territories.  The OA still has Regions and Sections but they don’t necessarily align with the new Service Territories.

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On 10/5/2021 at 9:55 PM, Oldscout448 said:

Our lodge has 26 chapters at last count.  For the lodge chief to work directly with that many chapter chiefs proved to be difficult indeed. So we grouped three or four chapters that touched each other geographically into areas. Each with its own Chief and Advisor. Precovid  I believe we had 6, now we have consolidated to 4 due to membership drop.

Hope this helps.

 

On 10/5/2021 at 11:45 PM, HelpfulTracks said:

Based on a previous post you made, I think there might be some confusion with the terms your son is using. I could be wrong though.

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As OldSCout448 said, some have a level between Lodge and Chapter for organizational purposes and they may have one or more of these officer positions. I think that mainly occurs among larger Lodges (either those with many Chapters, many members or those geographically spread out.)

 

 

Thank you both for replying.

He's definitely an Area Vice Chief, but the situation is exactly as you both described, our Lodge uses the "Area" designation to cover 5 or so Chapters.  Each area has a Chief and a couple Vice Chief roles that report up to the Lodge leadership.

I managed to find the map on our Lodge's website, but it was the lack of any findable, formal documentation on what exactly an Area was that was throwing me for a loop.

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24 minutes ago, mrjohns2 said:

Your council has 26 districts? OMG!

I know, right!

I can only guess that it is either

  1. a council that has a large metro area and densely populated
  2. a western council that covers a huge expanse of territory
  3. or a council that has been merged with several others

 

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1 hour ago, HelpfulTracks said:

I know, right!

I can only guess that it is either

  1. a council that has a large metro area and densely populated
  2. a western council that covers a huge expanse of territory
  3. or a council that has been merged with several others

 

#1 is correct!   Washington DC,  central  Maryland, and northern Virginia.

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1 minute ago, Oldscout448 said:

#1 is correct!   Washington DC,  central  Maryland, and northern Virginia.

DelMarVa!! 

I have several versions of you CSP's from the 70's and 80's I traded for at '81 NSJ. 

Or I should say, my son now has them now. I just get to look at them. 

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55 minutes ago, mrjohns2 said:

It still doesn’t make sense. 
 

DelMarVa’s website…

The Council covers fourteen counties and is divided into 8 Scouting districts.”

Actually, now that I read your reply I think I jumped the gun on DelMarVA, He did not mention Delaware, 

It is likely National Capital Area - which has many districts including the Virgin Islands. 

and BTW I have some of their beautiful patches from the 70's and 80's

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18 hours ago, HelpfulTracks said:

It is likely National Capital Area - which has many districts including the Virgin Islands. 

21, not 26, but 21 is still past the OMG that is too many districts level! It says they serve 36,000 scouts. Really? That seems crazy too. It blows my mind that the tools and other items of the BSA can scale from councils with 300 scouts to councils with 36,000 scouts. 

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1 hour ago, mrjohns2 said:

21, not 26, but 21 is still past the OMG that is too many districts level! It says they serve 36,000 scouts. Really? That seems crazy too. It blows my mind that the tools and other items of the BSA can scale from councils with 300 scouts to councils with 36,000 scouts. 

Not sure how many districts they have but I have been told that the council for Houston had 60K  scouts (pre-Covid), I think it is the largest, but not sure. Chigcago, LA, NYC have to be pretty large too. Though I have also been told NYC council is broken into councils by borough, so not sure how they count out. 

And yes, it is a pretty elastic system, but then again the base unit is 6-8 scouts. Not a bad program structure, I would say. 

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4 hours ago, mrjohns2 said:

21, not 26, but 21 is still past the OMG that is too many districts level! It says they serve 36,000 scouts. Really? That seems crazy too. It blows my mind that the tools and other items of the BSA can scale from councils with 300 scouts to councils with 36,000 scouts. 

I stand corrected.  Every  3 to 7 years there is a revamping of districts and boundaries.   Guess I need to keep closer track.

And  I agree that it's a huge ungainly beast sometimes.

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On 10/12/2021 at 6:07 PM, mrjohns2 said:

Your council has 26 districts? OMG!

With the various mergers. the chapter numbers and district numbers don't necessarily align.  Our district has 3 chapters, which coincide with the three legacy districts.  The OA was allowed to decide whether or not to merge.

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