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22 minutes ago, MattR said:

What is the class designation? 

Class = what "tier" of Council you are. Smaller council, lower number. Example: Class 100s include Crossroads of America, Michigan Crossroads, and Greater New York 

G = Grade. Numbers refer to scout executive pay/cost of living. Runs G1-G4 (G4 = Greenwich, Greater New York, Northern New Jersey, Greater Hudson Valley)

EDIT: So what is the SMALLEST, most expensive council (C500/G4)? Piedmont [CA] (C500/G4)

Biggest/most expensive (C100/G4)? Golden Gate Area and Greater New York

Biggest/least expensive? Well C100/G1 don't exist, but there are six C100/G2s:

  1. Denver Area
  2. Heart of America
  3. Greater St. Louis Area
  4. Atlanta Area
  5. Crossroads of America
  6. Michigan Crossroads

What is the smallest/cheapest (C500/G1) ? 23 way tie.

 

 

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On 5/3/2021 at 12:44 PM, CynicalScouter said:

Class = what "tier" of Council you are. Smaller council, lower number.

 

On 5/3/2021 at 12:44 PM, CynicalScouter said:

So what is the SMALLEST, most expensive council (C500/G4)? Piedmont [CA] (C500/G4)

Biggest/most expensive (C100/G4)? Golden Gate Area and Greater New York

I'm confused.  It looks like the first statement indicates that class 100 council are the smallest, but the next statements seem to indicate that class 100 councils are the biggest.

Please help unconfuse me.  Thank you.

Also, do you know the specific criteria, e.g. number of scouts, they use for making class designations?

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9 hours ago, RandomScouter said:

I'm confused.  It looks like the first statement indicates that class 100 council are the smallest, but the next statements seem to indicate that class 100 councils are the biggest.

Typo.

And BSA does not say how they categorize the Classes.

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8 hours ago, CynicalScouter said:

Typo.

And BSA does not say how they categorize the Classes.

Classes are basically a way to measure size by membership and finances.  They will have the largest memberships and likely have higher populations with more potential market share. They will have the largest budgets and total assets. 

Class size is important for determining professional and support staff sizes. It would highly determine scout executive selection and the top end salary. 

Assuming constant membership and finances, if two class 500 councils were merged, then the new council would be double in size and might become a 300.

There is a measurement scale somewhere. 

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2 hours ago, RobertCalifornia said:

There is a measurement scale somewhere. 

Yes, but the question was

20 hours ago, RandomScouter said:

Also, do you know the specific criteria, e.g. number of scouts, they use for making class designations?

And the fact is BSA Isn't saying what the specific criteria is anywhere publicly available.

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14 hours ago, CynicalScouter said:

Yes, but the question was

And the fact is BSA Isn't saying what the specific criteria is anywhere publicly available.

It is not released.  The actual formula takes into account membership and financial situation.  A very large and financially healthy council is a 100 whereas a small and/or financially challenged council is a 500.  Councils who are of average size and financially fine but not outstanding are 300.  

This is the first time I recall seeing the list publicly.

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From the Commissioner Newsletter this past weekend:

The BSA’s organizational structure will change at the end of this month with the elimination of areas and regions, which will be replaced by 16 National Service Territories. The new structure will be streamlined and focused on supporting our local councils. Unit Service will be an important part of the new structure.

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On 8/1/2021 at 12:48 PM, SiouxRanger said:

Why is this called the "Churchill" Project?  Does anyone know?

Winston Churchill has been credited with saying: “Never let a good crisis go to waste? ”

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10 minutes ago, RichardB said:

Winston Churchill has been credited with saying: “Never let a good crisis go to waste? ”

It's my understanding that yes, that was something like it: that in a time of crisis Churchill stepped up and led and that in BSA's time of crisis this is the leadership to get out of it, etc.

Notice how for the most part almost all of it was shelved.

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