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On 7/13/2021 at 11:04 AM, fred8033 said:

With all this movement, it will be interesting to see if sales are contingent on the larger agreement being accepted?  I suspect some of the sales would still happen without the settlement, but I'm sure some would not happen.

I know that the sale of Camp Freeland Leslie is not contingent as they are selling all of the gear to run camp in a "garage sale" online to be picked up on August 4th. It is my understanding that the council must be cleared out on August 30th. 

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Joplin Globe Editorial: Selling scout camp another betrayal

Also https://news.yahoo.com/editorial-selling-scout-camp-another-223100666.html
 

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Talk of selling the Frank Childress Scout Reservation near Joplin deserves a "hell no!"

Forgive us for violating that part of Scout Law — yes, some of us are former Boy Scouts — that requires us to be reverent, but selling the 180-acre camp to pay a portion of the settlement for victims of abuse by scoutmasters or other leaders deserves the strongest condemnation. You see, another of the 12 points of the Scout Law is being loyal — including loyalty to the principles of Scouting and to other Scouts who did not create this problem.

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Selling the camp isn't a solution, just another betrayal of the Scouts themselves.

Of course, the editorial provides absolutely no information as to how else the Council's suppose to meet its legal obligations.

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On 7/14/2021 at 6:55 AM, RememberSchiff said:

Ozark Trails Council (MO) is considering selling the 180 acre Frank Childress Scout Reservation.

Council statement

The Ozark Trails Council is exploring ways to fund our council’s contribution to the survivor’s compensation Trust, as part of the national organization’s bankruptcy process, while ensuring that Scouting will continue serving youth and families in our communities for years to come. The sale of council property is a potential means to achieve both imperatives. 

The council received an unsolicited offer to purchase Frank Childress Scout Reservation, and our Executive Board is scheduled to vote on whether to accept that offer during its July 15th meeting as part of ongoing discussions on how to best position the council for the future. 

The decision to sell any council-owned property will be difficult. The reality is the Council Executive Board has few options to fund our contribution to the survivor’s Trust. Our leadership team is committed to making decisions that are in the best interest of continuing our important mission and delivering Scouting’s invaluable programs to youth in all 31 counties that make up the Ozark Trails Council. If this sale is approved, there will still be a council property within an hour’s drive for members from every corner of our council’s service area.

As a reminder, our council has not filed for bankruptcy. The Ozark Trails Council remains as dedicated as ever to delivering our nation’s foremost program for character development and values-based leadership training in our communities. Our council serves about 4,300 young people on an annual basis and will continue to do so throughout this process. We are looking forward to an enriching summer of programming, including water sports on Cow Creek, and overnight campouts at Plagens Wildlife Area and Frank Childress Scout Reservation. 

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https://www.fourstateshomepage.com/news/the-boy-scouts-of-america-ozark-trails-council-is-considering-selling-a-reservation/

7/16 Update

"An overwhelming amount of the Ozark Trails Council's 31 board members voted on Thursday against accepting an offer for the Frank Childress Scout Reservation."

"I don't know of anyone with the desire to sell one of our camp properties, so they were preaching to the choir," Scout Executive John Feick said. "We still have to fund a significant contribution to the settlement, so we're going to have to figure out something at some point, but it's clear that one thing we do not want to have to do is sell properties."

https://www.joplinglobe.com/news/local_news/boy-scouts-council-rejects-offer-for-frank-childress-campground/article_77383c6e-e654-11eb-806e-67eb929e4200.html

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Simon Kenton Council in Ohio announced at a scouting forum that they will most likely sell Chief Logan Reservation and Camp Madison Lake. CLR is a main summer camp where this is the last summer for camping. Madison Lake is a very small camp, basically a single campsite on a state park lake. They also said they have to contribute 2.7 million to the settlement in cash and property.  They said they were surprised that it was not more.  This council has been very upfront with the bankruptcy for the past year.

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Camp Oklawaha is a 60-acre camp that parents say has been owned by the Boy Scouts for decades and is used by Scouts from around the state who go there for camping, fishing, and other outdoor activities.

The Gulf Stream Council Boy Scouts of America sent an email to Boy Scout families which reads in part: "As you may already know, the Boy Scouts of America reached a settlement with abuse survivors in the amount of $850 million so that victims can be fairly compensated. $500 million of this settlement is expected to come from local councils in the form of cash or properties. To be a part of the settlement and to receive the benefit or protection from any claim litigation relating to allegations of past abuse, the Gulf Stream Council must contribute $1.1 million in either cash or property."

Terrence Hamilton, Scout executive of Gulf Stream Council Boy Scouts of America. says they plan to launch a fundraising campaign to try to raise $1.1 million from local donors, to avoid having to sell Camp Oklawaha.

https://cbs12.com/news/local/parents-upset-about-possible-sale-of-boy-scout-camp

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Deer Lake Scout Reservation (CT), a 255 acre wooded camp with a mile-long spring-fed lake and trails which link to Chatfield Hollow and Cockaponset State Forests is up for sale.

The private Save Deer Lake Facebook group was created just two days after an announcement was made informally last week that Connecticut Yankee Council Boy Scouts of America wanted to sell the camp., according to Ted Langevin, a scout leader, chairman of Pack 491 in Madison and member of the Quinnipiac district committee...

The parcel was appraised between $3.7 million to $4.2 million. Some $2.6 million will go to the Boy Scouts of America, Langevin said, to help pay the local council’s assessed share of the $850 million sex abuse settlement signed off on by a judge in August to pay the tens of thousands of abuse victims, according to claimsjournal.com.

https://www.ctinsider.com/shoreline/article/Boy-Scouts-sex-abuse-settlement-prompts-sale-of-16448346.php

 

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Jersey Shore Council sells service center and Hugh C. Clayton Scout Shop building site (4 acres) to town Toms Rivers for $1M

https://brick.shorebeat.com/2021/09/boy-scouts-jersey-shore-council-to-sell-4-acres-of-property-to-toms-river-for-1m/

Update 9/29/2021: Town approves purchase

“I’d hate to see hundreds of additional houses if the Boy Scouts decided to sell this to a private developer,” Councilman Dan Rodrick said.

https://tomsriver.shorebeat.com/2021/09/toms-river-approves-1m-purchase-of-boy-scout-property/

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Washington state:

The Inland Northwest Council’s $164,963 contribution is one of the lowest of the 250 local councils in the nation. Many contributed $2 million, and some up to $10 million. The Chief Seattle council in the Puget Sound, for example, agreed to pay $7.5 million as part of the complex settlement scheduled to be approved by creditors and the bankruptcy court sometime in October.+

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“Our contribution to the settlement will not result in the divestiture of any of our camps or other properties being used as part of the program, and the future is bright for our council and the program,” said Steve Anderson, incoming president who is currently vice president of the council.

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Anderson is also vice president of legal affairs and risk management for the council. He has been the council’s representative during the settlement negotiations.

The amounts for each council were based on assets and number of valid claims. Anderson said he could not release the number of claims they had but they were low compared to the other regions of the country.

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The council’s assets have been legally protected for years from liability claims. They are held in endowments and leases that the council doesn’t directly control.

 

More details, an interesting read.

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2021/sep/16/inland-boy-scouts-council-contributes-to-national-/

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Local Media Statement – Trust Contributions

September 16, 2021

 

 

Attributable to the Laurel Highlands Council 

 

The national organization of the BSA continues to work toward the dual imperatives of its financial restructuring: equitably compensate survivors and ensure the future of Scouting’s vital mission. As part of the Boy Scouts of America’s financial restructuring, the specific contributions each local council will make to help fund the Trust for survivors was filed with the Court. These figures were determined through a combination of information filed in the claims process and what local councils could meaningfully contribute while ensuring Scouting can continue in their areas.

 

Our council participated in this process and our contribution was determined to be $5,972,147, which will be a cash contribution.

The Laurel Highlands Council is legally separate and distinct from the national organization. Our camps, properties, and local donations are controlled by our council. We share in the BSA’s commitment to equitably compensate survivors of past abuse. We carefully reviewed how we can fund our contribution to the compensation Trust while ensuring that Scouting can continue to serve youth, families, and communities in the Laurel Highlands Council for generations to come. Specifically, we have taken steps to fund our contribution from an unrestricted endowment fund.

 

It is important to note that restricted donations can only be used for their designated purposes and are legally protected so that they are used as the donor specified. Local donations through Friends of Scouting (FOS) go straight to supporting Scouting in our communities today; these donations are used in real time and are critical to maintaining local operations.

 

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17 hours ago, MattR said:

Tumbleweed? In Michigan? A few miles from Lake Michigan? And not much further from Huron? Half way to the UP?

I'll be honest, I used to live in Washington and they had lots of tumbleweeds - the type where a single one would fill a 96 gal garbage can and if you hit one on the highway it would just explode. And I had to explain to people that Eastern WA is not anything like the Western side. So, tumbleweeds in MI? Really?

 

https://loyoladunesrestoration.wordpress.com/2018/04/22/our-native-tumbleweed/

 

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From Allegheny Highlands Council (AHC) which unanimously approved the sale of the Elk Lick Scout Reserve in Smethport, Pa. to fulfill their $900,000 required for the settlement.

“We are not voting tonight on giving away a piece of history, we are voting on whether we want to keep Scouting alive in the Allegheny Highlands Council,” Michael Kelley, AHC board president, told members in a newsletter sent Friday. “If things stay on course, the lawsuit may be coming to an end in the next 90 days — it is not yet a done deal, but when it is, we will need to be prepared to put our part of the settlement into action. A key component of the plan is 100 percent participation by the 252 local Councils; if any one of these Councils decides not to participate, the deal is dead, and so is scouting.

There were nearly 70 claims against Allegheny Highlands Council. "...the contribution from each council was determined by the Local Council Committee in consultation with the Torts Claimant Committee...the formula used to determine each council’s contribution included council assets, number of claims filed within each council and statute of limitations in the state in which the claims were filed."

https://www.observertoday.com/news/page-one/2021/10/boy-scouts-ok-sale-of-property/

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Heart of New England Council (Central Massachusetts) quickly sold their headquarters and scout shop building (or one of them after council merger) for $700,000. It had been listed at $799,000.  Quite a bargain for a prime property in view and directly off an exit of a major Boston commuter highway, Route 2.  I see a large Mobil Mart/Dunkins/McDonalds in its future.  The Council office was moved to Treasure Valley Scout Reservation in Rutland, MA

Mark Barbernitz, Scout executive and CEO of  Council, said the executive board is still discussing how to fill the final settlement amount, but that some of the funds from the sale would probably be used for it. ..

More at source

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/former-headquarters-for-local-boy-scout-council-in-lancaster-being-sold/ar-AAParcv

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