John-in-KC 311 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 I was searching for the way forward graphic and encountered this... Its from a Michigan Council. The families are required to release the council from COVID liability as an inherent risk. If this is National policy, I’m out of here. https://michiganscouting.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Youth-Waiver.pdf Link to post Share on other sites
CynicalScouter 1434 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) Not national, but other councils, yes. Alamo Area Council https://www.alamoareabsa.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/AAC-COVID-19-Warning-and-Waiver.pdf South Texas Council http://southtexasbsa.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/STCBSA-COVID-19-Warning-and-Waiver_June-2020_fillable.pdf Daniel Webster Council https://nhscouting.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Unit-Activty-Meeting-Guidance-2.0.pdf Great Smokey Mountain Council https://www.easttnscouts.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Camp-Property-COVID-Forms.pdf Edited July 12, 2020 by CynicalScouter 1 Link to post Share on other sites
elitts 464 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 On 7/12/2020 at 2:32 PM, John-in-KC said: The families are required to release the council from COVID liability as an inherent risk. If this is National policy, I’m out of here. https://michiganscouting.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Youth-Waiver.pdf Why would this bother you? You know COVID is a risk anytime you leave the house or bring any thing or person into your house. Is formally waiving your right to sue BSA specifically over COVID a big deal? I mean, if in some freak circumstance it was discovered that an infected employee in a Scout Shop was going around deliberately licking every item and it caused an outbreak, the release would likely be thrown out anyway, so what's the problem? Link to post Share on other sites
walk in the woods 888 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 40 minutes ago, elitts said: Why would this bother you? You know COVID is a risk anytime you leave the house or bring any thing or person into your house. Is formally waiving your right to sue BSA specifically over COVID a big deal? I mean, if in some freak circumstance it was discovered that an infected employee in a Scout Shop was going around deliberately licking every item and it caused an outbreak, the release would likely be thrown out anyway, so what's the problem? Mostly because of the inconsistency. Scouts and scouters also assume a risk for tick and mosquito borne illnesses, with some risk of long-term health impact or death, every time they venture into the woods but none of those are included on the release. Link to post Share on other sites
T2Eagle 902 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Distasteful as it may be to have something like this, it's probably prudent. There is going to be a tremendous amount of litigation eventually about Covid as the bills for treatment come due, especially if there are, as there is some indication of, long term consequences in addition to the initial illness. Our current health care system, fragmented and disjointed in its financing, is simply not designed to pay for a pandemic. Everyone's health insurance premiums are going to skyrocket next year. Lots of people are going to be out of work and therefore without health insurance, but also with large bills for care. Of all the many things we haven't figured out about this disease, how to pay for all its attendant illness is certainly a large one. There are going to be a lot of bills that need to be payed, and very few people really in a position to pay them. Link to post Share on other sites
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