5thGenTexan 504 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 ... as Cubmaster. Its a Council camp specifically for new Scouts and their families, but everyone in the Pack is invited. Meals will be in the dining hall, and there is program all day long ending with a big campfire. I don't have to plan meals, cook, or provide much. After the big fire we are going to have a small fire at our campsite just for the new Scouts to not feel like they are missing out. I plan on having the Pack sing Vespers before going to bed, aside from that I don't have much "planned". If I dont make it back alive, please don't forget me. 🤣 1 Link to post Share on other sites
5thGenTexan 504 Posted October 20, 2019 Author Share Posted October 20, 2019 I lived and made it home. But there were kids this weekend that looked at me like I was crazy and it was their first time EVER. When I used the word "No". 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites
desertrat77 1144 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 19 minutes ago, 5thGenTexan said: I lived and made it home. But there were kids this weekend that looked at me like I was crazy and it was their first time EVER. When I used the word "No". Congratulations! I completely understand re the kids and their amazement at the word "no." As a former JROTC instructor, I saw the same dynamic. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Double Eagle 128 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 As an scout with a frayed neckerchief and faded pack, I watch new scout adults on campouts and cringe at some things. The one thing I try to suggest politely is state the desired act, not what you want changed. Example: I heard a lot of adults yell "stop running" versus "walk or slow down". It is a small thing, but those young minds process much differently than mine. I have to stress what I want them to do rather than what not to do. Kind of like homework options: What homework do you want to do first rather than the adult choosing. Link to post Share on other sites
scoutldr 726 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I hear this a lot with new parents...of my Grandkids. Constantly asking them what they want to do, or bargaining with them. Kids that age don't need to give their permission. Link to post Share on other sites
Eagledad 2777 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 LOL. Our 3 year old grand daughter told us the other day that "We don't say no". Different problem for her young parents, they have been saying no so much that the meaning lost it's effect on our very bright grand daughter (we saw it coming). So, they are now using sentences instead of the word "no" to stop the little princess. And starting with please. I know they will figure it out because they want to figure it out. But, "no" is still used at Grammy and Papa's house. We just do it better. 😎 Barry Link to post Share on other sites
Momleader 65 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) Double Eagle: Stop Running / No running is acceptable. Especially in our council camps - when my boys were cubs we had a summer camp week where the ODD (oppositional defiance disorder) child was told stop running in camp several times and it was explained daily why no running in camp - until he ran in camp, tripped on a rock or tree root and broke his hand. Safety doesn’t always need gentle reminders this weekend we had a cub Activity day with picnic & s’mores after. One cub family left early because their child wanted to eat s’mores while everyone was eating lunch (everyone was told those would be made after everyone ate lunch). Parents told the child - to eat their lunch or sit quietly and “if your going to have a tantrum over the rules-we go home” and they did. 👏👏👏 Edited October 21, 2019 by Momleader Explanations 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Eagledad 2777 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, Momleader said: this weekend we had a cub Activity day with picnic & s’mores after. One cub family left early because their child wanted to eat s’mores while everyone was eating lunch (everyone was told those would be made after everyone ate lunch). Parents told the child - to eat their lunch or sit quietly and “if your going to have a tantrum over the rules-we go home” and they did. 👏👏👏 That's how you teach "No". Barry Link to post Share on other sites
qwazse 4342 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 20 minutes ago, Momleader said: ... “if your going to have a tantrum over the rules-we go home” and they did. 👏👏👏 When he was about that age, I once told Son #1 that if he kept throwing a tantrum, I'd take his litter sister to the Steeler game instead of him (his uncle had given me a pair of tickets) ... and I did. I'm not sure I ever told that story to my scouts. I wouldn't want them up at night wondering how they got stuck with the cruel adult leader. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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