mrkstvns 486 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 BSA is asking scouts to wear their scout uniform to school tomorrow (October 16) in an effort to stand up to bullying by showing other students that they have a friend in their midst. What do you think? Is this effective? Will scouts and parents buy in and participate? Link to post Share on other sites
desertrat77 1144 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) I think it depends on the community's support for scouting. Even in pro-scouting communities, I don't predict much participation. I hope I'm wrong. I think the initiative has great intent. But kids quit wearing their uniforms to school back in the early '70s. The other dynamic about bullying is the lack of teacher and administrator support for prevention. And lack of suitable, behavior-changing consequences for bullying. Yes, it seems odd, but I found that many teachers and principals turn a blind eye to bullying. Prevention receives all of the right words, but in actual practice, bullying was pervasive in the school where I taught. Many teachers ignored it either because they didn't want to deal with it, or they knew from past experience that even if they dealt with it or elevated it to the principals, it would all be swept under the carpet. Or the consequences were so light, it didn't change behavior. Bullies know their environment, and there are few punishments administered in schools today that encourage them to change their ways. Edited October 15, 2019 by desertrat77 Link to post Share on other sites
MattR 2659 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Nobody will, especially because nobody has heard about this. Of course, few people have heard of scout me in. Just to totally change this thread, how is advertising money spent in the BSA? I never see any ads from the BSA on anything. Does each council have to pay for ads or does national? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Saltface 165 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Speaking from my own experience, wearing a scout uniform to school is much more effective at attracting bullies than it is at preventing bullying. When I read this email announcement, the cynic in me whispered that this is just a marketing ploy wrapped up in virtue signalling. Link to post Share on other sites
Eagledad 2779 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Does kindness need a uniform these days. Barry Link to post Share on other sites
Jameson76 1482 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Just curious how this was marketed? I literally get every e-mail possible it seems from the District, Council, etc. Nothing from Council on this and nothing it seems on the Council Website or Social Media Is Anti-Bullying one the 8 sorry...now apparently myriad aims of Scouting? Link to post Share on other sites
Saltface 165 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Jameson76 said: Just curious how this was marketed? I literally get every e-mail possible it seems from the District, Council, etc. Nothing from Council on this and nothing it seems on the Council Website or Social Media Is Anti-Bullying one the 8 sorry...now apparently myriad aims of Scouting? Scouting Wire email with a link to here: https://scoutingwire.org/call-to-action-for-scouts-to-help-take-on-bullying-during-national-bullying-prevention-month/ Edited October 15, 2019 by Saltface Link to post Share on other sites
MikeS72 437 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 34 minutes ago, Jameson76 said: Just curious how this was marketed? I literally get every e-mail possible it seems from the District, Council, etc. Nothing from Council on this and nothing it seems on the Council Website or Social Media Is Anti-Bullying one the 8 sorry...now apparently myriad aims of Scouting? I both got an e-mail from Scouting Wire and saw it on multiple Scout related Facebook pages. Link to post Share on other sites
RichardB 219 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 If you opt out or have a bad email (or block email.scoutingwire.org) you wont get Scouting Wire. Link to post Share on other sites
skeptic 993 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 While the idea would at one time likely been helpful, today, as someone else pointed out, would likely just draw the bullies to the scout. And we do not need more reasons for boys to shy away from the program. It is different when they are in public together or with adults, but in the school, it might be really difficult for many. Reflecting on the truth in society in this country. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Chadamus 100 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Private school uniform required, so no. Link to post Share on other sites
ParkMan 1293 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 6 hours ago, desertrat77 said: I think it depends on the community's support for scouting. Even in pro-scouting communities, I don't predict much participation. I hope I'm wrong. I think the initiative has great intent. But kids quit wearing their uniforms to school back in the early '70s. 1 hour ago, Saltface said: Speaking from my own experience, wearing a scout uniform to school is much more effective at attracting bullies than it is at preventing bullying. When I read this email announcement, the cynic in me whispered that this is just a marketing ploy wrapped up in virtue signalling. 28 minutes ago, skeptic said: While the idea would at one time likely been helpful, today, as someone else pointed out, would likely just draw the bullies to the scout. And we do not need more reasons for boys to shy away from the program. It is different when they are in public together or with adults, but in the school, it might be really difficult for many. Reflecting on the truth in society in this country. National needs to fix the Scouting image problem before this will be doable. I predict at most 0.1% participation. Link to post Share on other sites
qwazse 4344 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 30 minutes ago, skeptic said: While the idea would at one time likely been helpful, today, as someone else pointed out, would likely just draw the bullies to the scout. ... Well, give the scout unit applications to hand out. Got bullies? We got bear country! A great opportunity to work the 4th and 10th points of the law at the same time. Doesn't matter, our troop didn't meet this week so getting the word out is a non-starter. In general, BSA's fad-chasing doesn't impress me. I wore my uniform to school Feb. 8th. That's timing that I can get behind. Link to post Share on other sites
shortridge 184 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I don’t get ScoutingWire, but I do get Bryan on Scouting, who didn’t mention it. Great communications coordination! Link to post Share on other sites
awanatech 87 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 With all of the District, Council & National emails that I get, I have not gotten one about this. I'm not on FB, or any other traditional social media, so if that's where it's advertised, I won't see it. We had our Troop meeting tonight and nothing was mentioned at all about it. Link to post Share on other sites
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