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1 hour ago, Eagle1993 said:

@shortridge  Note that the author was referencing two sources.  These sources are indicating membership didn’t surge.  I agree that the 70,000+ growth was healthy and a good start, but I’m not sure what National was expecting or hoping for.  

As someone who used to work with National's membership numbers, rarely is what National publishes accurate to anything that makes sense. I do have a close friend in a Texas council who says their cub numbers are up this fall. I trust him, so the girls are some impact. But I learned to never trust National. 

Also, most of the opinions on this forum are more often than not emotionally biased. The research for the data used in the article may have been more professional with more pragmatic results.

Barry

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21 minutes ago, Eagledad said:

The research for the data used in the article may have been more professional with more pragmatic results.

What data, Barry? The only membership numbers cited were historical, drawn from National’s own reports.

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27 minutes ago, shortridge said:

What data, Barry? The only membership numbers cited were historical, drawn from National’s own reports.

As I said, based on my experience, National's published membership numbers rarely made sense. And who knows how the data is being interpreted. A professional researching ALL the information might provide a more pragmatic result. I certainly would not put much value on opinions from this forum.

The heart of the truth will work it's way to the surface in a year or so. 

Barry

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23 minutes ago, Eagledad said:

As I said, based on my experience, National's published membership numbers rarely made sense. And who knows how the data is being interpreted. A professional researching ALL the information might provide a more pragmatic result. I certainly would not put much value on opinions from this forum.

The heart of the truth will work it's way to the surface in a year or so. 

Barry

I'd be happy to try and provide some interpretation. 

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5 minutes ago, carebear3895 said:

I'd be happy to try and provide some interpretation. 

From the writer of the article?

That would be interesting.

Barry

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7 minutes ago, Eagledad said:

From the writer of the article?

That would be interesting.

Barry

oh, I thought you meant interpretation as far as Nationals numbers go. 

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Just now, carebear3895 said:

oh, I thought you meant interpretation as far as Nationals numbers go. 

That will be interesting also, but it's nice to understand everyones perspective.

Is you experience at the National level?

Barry

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B.S.A official records used to say that I completed Scoutmaster Training (at least 21)years old) in 1910.  Now they say 1912. 

Imaginary units with imaginary members.

Imaginary advancement

B.S.A. records should be up for a Nebula Award.

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So I was at Philmont last week and was talking to the camp director about this.

He said that they are the only HA base that is always in the green.  He said that even last year with the fires they were in the green.  Apparently part of the Philmont endowment included real estate properties that they get rent on to cover expenses.

He also told me that it is owned by a trust and insulated from BSA corporate. 

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On 1/9/2019 at 12:25 PM, mashmaster said:

He also told me that it is owned by a trust and insulated from BSA corporate. 

Interesting.  I didn't know that.  I wonder if the other "National" properties are owned that way as well.

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