Eagledad 2777 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Eagle1993 said: @shortridge Note that the author was referencing two sources. These sources are indicating membership didn’t surge. I agree that the 70,000+ growth was healthy and a good start, but I’m not sure what National was expecting or hoping for. As someone who used to work with National's membership numbers, rarely is what National publishes accurate to anything that makes sense. I do have a close friend in a Texas council who says their cub numbers are up this fall. I trust him, so the girls are some impact. But I learned to never trust National. Also, most of the opinions on this forum are more often than not emotionally biased. The research for the data used in the article may have been more professional with more pragmatic results. Barry Link to post Share on other sites
shortridge 184 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 21 minutes ago, Eagledad said: The research for the data used in the article may have been more professional with more pragmatic results. What data, Barry? The only membership numbers cited were historical, drawn from National’s own reports. Link to post Share on other sites
Eagledad 2777 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, shortridge said: What data, Barry? The only membership numbers cited were historical, drawn from National’s own reports. As I said, based on my experience, National's published membership numbers rarely made sense. And who knows how the data is being interpreted. A professional researching ALL the information might provide a more pragmatic result. I certainly would not put much value on opinions from this forum. The heart of the truth will work it's way to the surface in a year or so. Barry Edited January 8, 2019 by Eagledad Link to post Share on other sites
carebear3895 218 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 23 minutes ago, Eagledad said: As I said, based on my experience, National's published membership numbers rarely made sense. And who knows how the data is being interpreted. A professional researching ALL the information might provide a more pragmatic result. I certainly would not put much value on opinions from this forum. The heart of the truth will work it's way to the surface in a year or so. Barry I'd be happy to try and provide some interpretation. Link to post Share on other sites
Eagledad 2777 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, carebear3895 said: I'd be happy to try and provide some interpretation. From the writer of the article? That would be interesting. Barry Link to post Share on other sites
carebear3895 218 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, Eagledad said: From the writer of the article? That would be interesting. Barry oh, I thought you meant interpretation as far as Nationals numbers go. Link to post Share on other sites
Eagledad 2777 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, carebear3895 said: oh, I thought you meant interpretation as far as Nationals numbers go. That will be interesting also, but it's nice to understand everyones perspective. Is you experience at the National level? Barry Link to post Share on other sites
TAHAWK 1420 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 B.S.A official records used to say that I completed Scoutmaster Training (at least 21)years old) in 1910. Now they say 1912. Imaginary units with imaginary members. Imaginary advancement B.S.A. records should be up for a Nebula Award. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mashmaster 783 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 So I was at Philmont last week and was talking to the camp director about this. He said that they are the only HA base that is always in the green. He said that even last year with the fires they were in the green. Apparently part of the Philmont endowment included real estate properties that they get rent on to cover expenses. He also told me that it is owned by a trust and insulated from BSA corporate. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
PACAN 220 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 I heard that all Council girl numbers are up this year. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
NJCubScouter 1389 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 On 1/9/2019 at 12:25 PM, mashmaster said: He also told me that it is owned by a trust and insulated from BSA corporate. Interesting. I didn't know that. I wonder if the other "National" properties are owned that way as well. Link to post Share on other sites
RememberSchiff 3655 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 (edited) The BSA may sell parts of its art collection, for example, 66 original works by Norman Rockwell which had been appraised at $130 million. http://www.tribtoday.com/news/local-news/2019/01/donor-questions-butler-boards-decision-on-boy-scouts-collection/ Update: as others noted above link is confusing. Link below is clearer. http://www.tribtoday.com/news/local-news/2019/01/130m-art-at-risk/ Edited January 26, 2019 by RememberSchiff clarity 1 Link to post Share on other sites
shortridge 184 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Boy, that article is a incomprehensible piece of gobbledygook. I could barely follow along. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
desertrat77 1144 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, shortridge said: Boy, that article is a incomprehensible piece of gobbledygook. I could barely follow along. I'm relieved you said that. I thought it was just me. Tried to read it but gave up and skimmed it. Seemed like a lot of in-house squabbling. But to sell those paintings...painful to think about. They depict what scouting is really all about. Link to post Share on other sites
T2Eagle 902 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Small town paper writing about a small town story, not that there's anything wrong with that, but it has nothing to do with the potential bankruptcy or selling any paintings. After some parsing it seems to say a museum that was going to try to put on an exhibition including the paintings is tabling that decision because of some uncertainty, and on of its main donors is mad about it. There was some mention about fantasizing about acquiring the paintings way down the road. Link to post Share on other sites
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