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Girl Scouts Suing the Boy Scouts

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1 minute ago, TuckahoeJoe said:

I don't know if the link is helpful as the category is Rover Scouts which may mean Venturing and Sea Scouting in the USA.

https://www.scout.org/sites/default/files/library_files/Grand Total Membership with Genders at 31 Dec 2016_0.pdf

The breakout is 105K boys and 32K girls as of YE 2016.

Thanks...now to find my glasses. :)

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1 hour ago, walk in the woods said:

I'm not sure I agree with that but we'll see how boys respond after their first co-ed summer camp experience.  I've said before and I'll repeat here, whatever we're calling boy scouts in 2020 will be moved to the gender segregated patrols model at the NAM in May of 2020.  We'll be told demand from the field, and parents, and that field experience shows the current girl troop model isn't working, and that it makes sense to parallel the Cub structure for continuity.

Girls from Venturing crews have been counselors at every summer camp we've attended since I joined.  That hasn't been an issue.

The Cub Scout model is terrible now. Cub Scouts was one of the few non-sports activities for just boys.  There are many more for girls.  Now that's gone.

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2 hours ago, 69RoadRunner said:

Girls from Venturing crews have been counselors at every summer camp we've attended since I joined.  That hasn't been an issue.

Again, I say maybe.  Girls from Crews as camp staff is different that girls from Troops as participants.

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2 hours ago, 69RoadRunner said:

The Cub Scout model is terrible now. Cub Scouts was one of the few non-sports activities for just boys.  There are many more for girls.  Now that's gone.

:rolleyes:

The pack sees my den of girls about once a month for 90 minutes or less. Hardly a terrible experience.

 

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16 minutes ago, Hawkwin said:

:rolleyes:

The pack sees my den of girls about once a month for 90 minutes or less. Hardly a terrible experience.

 

I'm not saying it's a terrible experience. Kids are in great co-ed activities all the time.

I think there's benefit to having some single-sex activities.  Making Cub Scouts co-ed takes one away.

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5 hours ago, TuckahoeJoe said:

I don't know if the link is helpful as the category is Rover Scouts which may mean Venturing and Sea Scouting in the USA.

https://www.scout.org/sites/default/files/library_files/Grand Total Membership with Genders at 31 Dec 2016_0.pdf

The breakout is 105K boys and 32K girls as of YE 2016.

The 136k number was before the LDS departure from Venturing and likely also includes Exploring. 

The 2015 Annual report had Venturing/Sea Scouts at 142892,

2016 Report at 119626, 

the 2017 Report (post-LDS departure) at 87827 (https://scoutingwire.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/2017-Annual-Report-Combined-FINAL-App-Version.pdf).  .  

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4 hours ago, SSScout said:

Twenty three pages of angst.   What does that say about the topic and the commentators? 

I think it's an important, controversial topic affecting an organization that is beloved by people here.  That's going to bring out lots of heartfelt comments and discussion.

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On ‎12‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 8:11 AM, ParkMan said:

I think you're conflating issues here.  Yes there are YPT rules.  The point is that we shouldn't fall into the same trap we all describe the GSUSA of doing - assuming the women need to the leaders of troops with scouts who are girls. 

Aside from YPT rules, I envision a lot of fathers who are looking for ways to participate in the Scouting activities of their daughters.  If my daughter wants to join a troop I'll volunteer.

My daughter's Venture Crew (all girl) is led by three dads who started the crew for their daughters.  There are three women on the committee now (we're called 'Associate Advisors' :D), but the main leaders are still men.

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4 hours ago, swilliams said:

My daughter's Venture Crew (all girl) is led by three dads who started the crew for their daughters.  There are three women on the committee now (we're called 'Associate Advisors' :D), but the main leaders are still men.

My associate advisor made my crew!

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