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Patrol Method and new G2SS rules

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On 6/17/2018 at 9:24 AM, qwazse said:

Do you have a location (building, park) where they adults can sit centrally, but the patrols can meet in individual rooms/pavillions.

yes i do. that is one of the things  i am looking to do. i want to give them  the best environment  for  (or at least the perception of) independence. outside of weekly troop meetings.

my biggest hurdle will be getting the adults on board with the extra time commitments.

I am thinking of maybe some  sort of patrol support position. they would only need to  be there to meet the new requirement.  As the troop pays for the adult registration fees,  and less time commitment. i might get some bites.

thankfully we have more than enough ASM support for our troop camping and trips.

 

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15 hours ago, Hedgehog said:

CO requires two adults (not necessarily registered) in any room where there are youth.

I’m curious: How do your youth react or respond to that rule? Logistically speaking, when you have patrol meetings, do you have enough adults to break off with every patrol? And what is the CO, if you’re able to say?

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35 minutes ago, Kryten said:

yes i do. that is one of the things  i am looking to do. i want to give them  the best environment  for  (or at least the perception of) independence. outside of weekly troop meetings.

my biggest hurdle will be getting the adults on board with the extra time commitments.

I am thinking of maybe some  sort of patrol support position. they would only need to  be there to meet the new requirement.  As the troop pays for the adult registration fees,  and less time commitment. i might get some bites.

thankfully we have more than enough ASM support for our troop camping and trips.

 

Given that you have the facuilities your patrols really only need two registered adult leaders located centrally, for you to be able to follow this to the letter, I think.

But think about it. If a PL decides to get together with his buddies and, by the way, draw up a hike/camp plan, is anyone going to stop them?

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Scout activity....   So the Scout registered mom and dad drive the Patrol (two cars, eight Scouts ) to the trailhead. In deference to modern communication possibilities, the PL and some others have cell phones.   The Scout registered mom and dad  show up at the trail end, twelve miles later, to pickup the Scouts, 5 hours later.  Picnic, cookout, watermelon in the cooler.

I say that fulfills the idea of "at a Scout activity", no?

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On 6/16/2018 at 3:49 PM, Kryten said:

Hi

i am in a smaller troop with limited leader availability.

I am looking for some ideas to try and keep our patrols active in spite of the new G2SS rules requiring 2 21+ leaders at all patrol activities and meetings.

i was thinking of maybe a patrol night .

any help would be great.

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On 6/17/2018 at 2:39 PM, MattR said:

It seems there are a few assumptions here about what it means for two adults to be at an activity. If the activity is cooking a meal then does that mean there needs to be 2 adults in each camp site? That's ridiculous. So there needs to be 2 adults on the camp property? That makes more sense. What if the property is a national forest? My point is until someone starts describing in some detail what this means you may as well not read too much into it. It really gets down to trust, as it always has been.

 

What, you want coherent English?  From "professionals"?

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On 7/1/2018 at 4:26 PM, SSScout said:

Scout activity....   So the Scout registered mom and dad drive the Patrol (two cars, eight Scouts ) to the trailhead. In deference to modern communication possibilities, the PL and some others have cell phones.   The Scout registered mom and dad  show up at the trail end, twelve miles later, to pickup the Scouts, 5 hours later.  Picnic, cookout, watermelon in the cooler.

I say that fulfills the idea of "at a Scout activity", no?

Not hardly.

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