The Latin Scot 960 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I have 8 boys in my den. Only 2 are presently legal American citizens; the others are immigrant citizens of Mexico, China, and Taiwan. But I tell them that since they will grow up in this country, and live under this nation's laws, they should consider themselves Americans, and that they have a responsibility to this country that is giving them and their families so many of the opportunities they enjoy. If they live here in America, I tell them, then they should feel a part of the great tapestry of this country, and that comes with inherent duties which they should feel the need to fulfil. Not only do the boys respond well to this idea, but I have had parents thank me for helping their sons feel that they have a place here that they didn't feel they had before, and I have had a few mention that their performance at school and their relationships with their peers has improved since developing the idea that they have a legitimate and important place in this country. I think that's one of the most important things Scouting can do for those who are new to our nation. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
blw2 432 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/12/2018 at 3:40 PM, David CO said: How about, "As a guest, I will do my best..." It rhymes. It also conveys the message that, as a guest of this country, they should do their best not to mess it up. i like this one.... Link to post Share on other sites
Jameson76 1395 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 As an Huperson, I will do my best (as defined within the local area and in no way to be interpreted as implying other cultures may not strive to do their best) toBe clean (as defined within the local area and in no way to be interpreted as implying other cultures may not be clean) in my outdoor mannersBe careful (as defined within the local area and in no way to be interpreted as implying other cultures may not be careful) with fireBe considerate (as defined within the local area and in no way to be interpreted as implying other cultures may not be considerate) in the outdoorsBe conservation-minded (as defined within the local area and in no way to be interpreted as implying other cultures may not be conservation minded) Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernTierScouter 12 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) We actually don't know why you have to be an American to care about this sort of thing. It was just suggested me to this past weekend at a council training event we use "As a Citizen of the World..." to replace, "As an American..." Edited March 20, 2018 by SouthernTierScouter Link to post Share on other sites
blw2 432 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/12/2018 at 3:40 PM, David CO said: How about, "As a guest, I will do my best..." It rhymes. It also conveys the message that, as a guest of this country, they should do their best not to mess it up. i like this one.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
blw2 432 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 hour ago, SouthernTierScouter said: We actually don't know why you have to be an American to care about this sort of thing. It was just suggested me to this past weekend at a council training event we use "As a Citizen of the World..." to replace, "As an American..." because people in Europe, Asia, Antarctica, Africa, and Australia don't care about such things, don'y ya know Link to post Share on other sites
Jameson76 1395 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 2 hours ago, SouthernTierScouter said: We actually don't know why you have to be an American to care about this sort of thing. It was just suggested me to this past weekend at a council training event we use "As a Citizen of the World..." to replace, "As an American..." Link to post Share on other sites
qwazse 4156 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 3 hours ago, Jameson76 said: Well, this thread's gone bust. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernTierScouter 12 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 14 hours ago, qwazse said: Well, this thread's gone bust. That was bad, even for a Scouter! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Pale Horse 158 Posted March 21, 2018 Author Share Posted March 21, 2018 30 minutes ago, SouthernTierScouter said: That was bad, even for a Scouter! It was a joke, don't lose your head over it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
NJCubScouter 1389 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Some of our threads go wrong. Some of them go really wrong. And then, in the worst case, some of them devolve into puns. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
NJCubScouter 1389 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I actually prefer "As a citizen of the world." I don't expect that to be a very popular view here. But the "outdoors" does not begin or end at a national boundary. Link to post Share on other sites
qwazse 4156 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 1 hour ago, NJCubScouter said: Some of our threads go wrong. Some of them go really wrong. And then, in the worst case, some of them devolve into puns. I'm sorry for any pain inflicted. I saw the sculpture, typed the pun, considered canceling. and thought, too marbleous to not submit. Now where were we? Oh yes ... citizens of the world ... outdoors and national boundaries ... where no man has gone before ... Link to post Share on other sites
SSScout 1512 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 *sigh* ""I will do my best to - Be clean in my outdoor manners, Be careful with fire, Be considerate in the outdoors, and Be conservation minded. "" Now, all one has to do is define "considerate", "clean" and "conservation minded." Link to post Share on other sites
David CO 1784 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 6 hours ago, NJCubScouter said: I actually prefer "As a citizen of the world." I don't expect that to be a very popular view here. But the "outdoors" does not begin or end at a national boundary. Why stop there? How about Citizen of the Galaxy? Link to post Share on other sites
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