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Saw this on another scouting list:

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The 2017 numbers are from the 2017 Report to the Nation.

<https://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2018/02/2017-Report-to-the-Nation.pdf>

Boy Scouts = Boy Scouts and Varsity Scouts.
Venturing = Venturers and Sea Scouts.

      Cub Scouts  Boy Scouts  Venturing       Total
      ----------  ----------  ---------       -----
1998   2,171,987   1,023,442    188,010   3,383,439
1999   2,166,289   1,023,691    202,164   3,392,144
2000   2,114,420   1,003,691    233,858   3,351,969
2001   2,043,478   1,005,592    276,434   3,325,504
2002   2,000,478   1,010,791    293,323   3,304,592
2003   1,914,425     997,398    288,395   3,200,218
2004   1,875,752     988,995    280,584   3,145,331
2005   1,745,324     943,426    249,948   2,938,698
2006   1,701,861     922,836    244,266   2,868,963
2007   1,687,986     913,588    254,259   2,855,833
2008   1,665,635     905,879    261,122   2,832,636
2009   1,634,951     898,320    257,361   2,790,632
2010   1,601,994     898,852    238,846   2,739,692
2011   1,583,166     909,576    231,127   2,723,869
2012   1,528,421     910,920    219,453   2,658,794
2013   1,417,034     888,947    192,080   2,498,061
2014   1,295,527     854,692    157,655   2,307,874
2015   1,261,340     840,654    142,892   2,244,886
2016   1,262,311     822,999    136,629   2,221,939
2017   1,245,882     834,124     87,827   2,167,833

The overall decline during the past year was 2.4% while the decline during
the past 19 years has been 35.9%. The BSA's goal for 2017 was to increase
youth membership by 2%.

 

The 2017 link is in the quote.  The 2016 document I could find is linked at https://www.scoutingnewsroom.org/key-topics/report-to-the-nation/

 

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Wow... Venturing is dieing. Down over 50% in last 4 years and now under 100k.  With some of those girls moving on to BS4G I don’t see it lasting much longer without some sort of revamp.  I hope these numbers fully reflect LDS exit.

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And these are the numbers reported at the annual meeting, and not the lower revised numbers reported (quietly) later in the year.

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In the annual report (at least 2016) they also noted the 492,159 "Scouts" in Career based programs and Learning for Life.  

Also interesting drops since 1998

  • Cubs - 43%
  • Boy Scouts - 19% (honestly less than I may have been led to believe)
  • Venturing - 54%
  • Total - 36%

Pretty good drop for Cubs.  Thought that was the growth area.

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Many of the LDS Venturing registrations reverted back to Troop registrations, so that puts the Boy Scouts number in perspective.

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51 minutes ago, Jameson76 said:

In the annual report (at least 2016) they also noted the 492,159 "Scouts" in Career based programs and Learning for Life.  

Also interesting drops since 1998

  • Cubs - 43%
  • Boy Scouts - 19% (honestly less than I may have been led to believe)
  • Venturing - 54%
  • Total - 36%

Pretty good drop for Cubs.  Thought that was the growth area.

Problem is Venturing grew until 2008.  It has dropped 66% in last 10 years.  Cubs is also a concern as that includes addition of some Lions.  Sounds like Boy Scout Numbers may Be up a bit as Some Venturing converted over to Boy Scouts.  All in all... not a great report on numbers.  Hope this starts turning around soon.

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21 minutes ago, Eagle1993 said:

Problem is Venturing grew until 2008.  It has dropped 66% in last 10 years.  Cubs is also a concern as that includes addition of some Lions.  Sounds like Boy Scout Numbers may Be up a bit as Some Venturing converted over to Boy Scouts.  All in all... not a great report on numbers.  Hope this starts turning around soon.

Hope won't do it. Solid strategies on retention will.

The big question is will the inflow of girls exceed the outflow of boys leaving the program?

Another set of stats not shown but equally as troubling: 

  1. The number of units year over year.
  2. The number of adults year over year.

Both of those numbers continue to decline at near 8-9% or greater.

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49 minutes ago, Col. Flagg said:

The big question is will the inflow of girls exceed the outflow of boys leaving the program?

Surbaugh has bet the farm. Following the trend of co-ed Scouting in Canada, camp properties may be going up for sale.

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It is interesting and disheartening that all of these stats are similarly seen in the downward trends in organized religious groups, especially the oldest ones, and within community-based service groups such as Elks, Lions and so on.  There is very likely a connection reflective of societal malaise in general.

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Regarding the 1998 stats, take them with a grain of salt. I know there was some inflation, i.e. Ronnie Holmes and Greater AL Council. While that is the largest one known, there were inflated stats all over.

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56 minutes ago, gblotter said:

Surbaugh has bet the farm. Following the trend of co-ed Scouting in Canada, camp properties may be going up for sale.

Haven't council camp properties been going up for sale (and sold) for at least the past 10 years?

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Just now, NJCubScouter said:

Haven't council camp properties been going up for sale (and sold) for at least the past 10 years?

I don't know. Are there statistics on this?

Not in our council, at least. Our council has three camp properties, and one sits mostly unused (even during the summer months). But nothing has gone up for sale (yet).

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6 hours ago, Eagle1993 said:

Problem is Venturing grew until 2008.  It has dropped 66% in last 10 years.  Cubs is also a concern as that includes addition of some Lions.  Sounds like Boy Scout Numbers may Be up a bit as Some Venturing converted over to Boy Scouts.  All in all... not a great report on numbers.  Hope this starts turning around soon.

Yea, about that Venturing growth ... 2008 was about when we insistedd that our DE stop feeding us numbers from paper crews whose youh hardly even knew they were registered with the BSA. I wouldn't be surprised if the number of Venturers who actually ever read their oath/code never exceeded 1/4 million.

Registration fees, adult applications for 18-20 year olds, and YPT demands didn't help. But, I was surprised last year when my crew couldn't drum up even five youth who wanted to engage the program.

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Screenshot (3).png

Yep, cubs sucks.

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