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Lots of things one might question beyond the product the business sells:

- The young lady is being used, in uniform, in a business advertisement

- In said advertisement she's wearing the business's ball cap

- Said business, at least according to one of the articles, uses the Girl Scout name to sell their product (https://buenos.urbnleaf.com/?product=platinum-cookies)

- Shop owners said she was just "passing by" and they posted to support the cause, but, the post included the name of their business and her in the cap.  Disingenuous at best....  Also said to have posted a picture of boxes of cookies along side their own products implying a relationship.

I guess GSUSA has to decide if they are good with all that.  It does go in some interesting directions though.  

So as to NJCubScouter's question, it seems to be the equivalent of say my local convenience store taking a picture of Cub Scouts, wearing the store's logo hats, showing popcorn arrayed along with the alcohol and cigar display, to use on their social media advertising campaign.  Just trying to help out a cause.  "Stop for some popcorn and pick up your game day needs!"

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16 hours ago, NJCubScouter said:

I'm not talking about any of those things.  I am talking about cookies.

Right. Cookies, being sold in a questionable location. 

You can simplify it and say "it's about cookies", but it is about more than that. It is about integrity and safety. I am sure you wouldn't advocate she sell cookies in any other area that might have questionable activities going on, so it really isn't just about cookies now, is it?

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39 minutes ago, Col. Flagg said:

You can simplify it and say "it's about cookies", but it is about more than that. It is about integrity and safety. I am sure you wouldn't advocate she sell cookies in any other area that might have questionable activities going on, so it really isn't just about cookies now, is it?

Point of clarification. While it might be an issue of integrity to some/many, it should not be considered an issue of either safety or questionable activities inside the business. While the feds can't seem to make up their mind on this topic, the state has deemed it legal and is heavily regulating it. There is no reason to assume that the customers that visit that store are any more dangerous or have a desire to be any more questionable than the person that goes to the local grocery store (where they are likely selling GS cookies) to buy a bottle whiskey.

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3 hours ago, Col. Flagg said:

Right. Cookies, being sold in a questionable location. 

You can simplify it and say "it's about cookies", but it is about more than that. It is about integrity and safety. I am sure you wouldn't advocate she sell cookies in any other area that might have questionable activities going on, so it really isn't just about cookies now, is it?

Generally I wouldn't advocate for or against anyone doing anything anywhere unless it (1) affects me or my family or my troop or my community, or (2) is against the law, which this is not, or (3) violates a rule of an organization that I have some connection to, which I don't in this case.  I am not this girl's father, nor her troop leader.  Those who are can keep her safe, they don't need my help.

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I saw on the news somewhere the council said they would let the early cookie selling date slide for this one time.

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Oh, my!  I just saw a Girl Scout selling cookies outside a DRUG store!  They have federally controlled substances in there!  Just like medical marijuana.  What's the world coming to???

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9 hours ago, Pselb said:

Oh, my!  I just saw a Girl Scout selling cookies outside a DRUG store!  They have federally controlled substances in there!  Just like medical marijuana.  What's the world coming to???

It’s not illegal under federal law to sell federally controlled substances. 

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But isn't the issue focused on a moral issue?  The comment was a poke at the word "drug".  We have comments concerning: marijuana stores, tobacco stores,  liquor stores, sexual content establishments, etc. indicating some sort of moral outrage at the term medical marijuana,  Yet Girl Scouts sell outside the local convenience store where they are selling tobacco and liquor by some pretty fine looking clerks, and we don't bat an eye.  If one is going to play the game, they need to be consistent with the rules. "Yes, but..." marijuana is illegal!!!"  And as a history teacher I know that at one point so was alcohol.  I also know how well that worked out.

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This thread reflect the us versus them theme from another thread where we have mods and non mods involved. It is about perception and morality. I don’t have kids but I wouldn’t want them selling cookies outside of any of these places. Why are they there in the first place but to take advantage of people with munchies. That’s just wrong. They shouldn’t be outside of liquor stores either. 

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16 minutes ago, Back Pack said:

This thread reflect the us versus them theme from another thread where we have mods and non mods involved. It is about perception and morality. I don’t have kids but I wouldn’t want them selling cookies outside of any of these places. Why are they there in the first place but to take advantage of people with munchies. That’s just wrong. They shouldn’t be outside of liquor stores either. 

Agreed, I wouldn’t want to have my child learn that selling outside a weed store makes good money.

It’s not a good influence in my opinion.

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Walmart sells tobacco, alcohol and drugs yet no one complains when both the Girl Scout AND Boy Scouts sell outside the front entrance.  Like our computer science teacher said, "It's all fuzzy logic".  The traditional example to explain this: scoop up a handful of sand.  You have a handful of sand.  Take away one grain of sand, do you still have a handful of sand?  Take another off.  At what point does it become - "not a handful of sand"?  Personal morality is all Fuzzy Logic.  Everyone has a different position on the continuum.  There might even be those that oppose to selling outside of Walmart, you never know.  We go through the same thing with our sport /band fundraisers.  That's why we have booster clubs and the school admin doesn't get involved.

 

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20 minutes ago, Back Pack said:

They shouldn’t be outside of liquor stores either. 

I don't necessarily disagree, but where do you draw the line? All of my local grocery stores sell liquor and cigs. Do we prohibit scouts from fundraising in front of (or inside of) such businesses?

We also fundraise at sporting events where alcohol is served (and where pot is consumed), do we avoid those locations as well?

I would not likely have made the same choice as this father and daughter but I also have difficulty passing judgment on them when I consider the fact that the store is legal in that state. It doesn't seem right for me to impose my morals on then from a state thousands of miles away - just like I don't think it would be right for me to impose my morals on what is right or wrong to do in another country where their government and citizens have already decided to legalize.

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34 minutes ago, Hawkwin said:

I don't necessarily disagree, but where do you draw the line? All of my local grocery stores sell liquor and cigs. Do we prohibit scouts from fundraising in front of (or inside of) such businesses?

We also fundraise at sporting events where alcohol is served (and where pot is consumed), do we avoid those locations as well?

I would not likely have made the same choice as this father and daughter but I also have difficulty passing judgment on them when I consider the fact that the store is legal in that state. It doesn't seem right for me to impose my morals on then from a state thousands of miles away - just like I don't think it would be right for me to impose my morals on what is right or wrong to do in another country where their government and citizens have already decided to legalize.

For me it’s pretty obvious that a weed or liquor or tobacco store would be wrong because scouts are supposed to refrain from such things. A scout is clean in mind and body. But a drug or grocery store would be okay because those are places that sell other things. Selling outside a bar would also be wrong but outside a restaurant would be okay. 

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:)  So is a Bar & Grill okay?  Bowling alleys have bars.  And a lot of "bars" also sell pizza, popcorn, and snacks.  Some even sell burgers.  Can you see where the Fuzzy Logic comes into play?  At what point does the scale tip?  And more importantly, who is the fulcrum?

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23 minutes ago, Tampa Turtle said:

Take up a position  on the other side of the supermarket entrance across from the Girl Scouts selling cookies with a sign: "Boy Scouts of America are now pro-choice: Girls now welcome!"

...or outside the medicinal marijuana shop if you are in those states. :rolleyes::ph34r:

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