The Latin Scot 961 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 (edited) My mom is actually trying to find one of the old blue Cub barets; she's the Wolf Den Leader in my Pack and it's the only hat she actually likes (she won't wear the ball caps and thinks the lady's Garrison hat makes her look like a stewardess). But they never show up on eBay or Etsy ... Anybody know where to find one? She insists it be official, no knock-offs, which makes it tricky. She actually doesn't know I am on the look out for one; I am hoping to surprise her for Mother's Day. Edited February 27, 2018 by The Latin Scot Link to post Share on other sites
carebear3895 218 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Oh my god National is really doing this...........Stupid Link to post Share on other sites
FireStone 423 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) I don't get the need for the skort at this time, other than as a prop for marketing photos. Which, by the way, they seem to be adding more of to the BSA Brand Center site. Those red neckerchiefs look pretty darn sharp. Hoping they'll be rolled out to scout shops in time for the fall, so my Wolf den can wear them. Edited April 20, 2018 by FireStone Link to post Share on other sites
qwazse 4342 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Okay, "squirrel!" moment ... Anyone recognize the council patch the model is wearing? Looks like one from now defunct Greater Pittsburgh. Link to post Share on other sites
Thunderbird 179 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 @qwazse It's difficult to tell with only a partial side view, but I think it might be the Cascade Pacific Council patch. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
RememberSchiff 3662 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 23 minutes ago, Thunderbird said: @qwazse It's difficult to tell with only a partial side view, but I think it might be the Cascade Pacific Council patch. You sir are correct. Here is a link to the marketing group photos. http://tidewaterbsa.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/ Scout with glasses original photo. Another Scout in above photo shoot. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
qwazse 4342 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 First thought upon seeing this last photo: "At least some of my boys will have more fellow scouts to compare earrings with!" Link to post Share on other sites
The Latin Scot 961 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Wow, the girl in the last pic looks exactly like my niece! Frankly though, I still prefer the yellow neckerchief with the Cub Scout uniform, although I do understand the convenience of establishing uniformity with all the color schemes. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Gwaihir 198 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 On 1/19/2018 at 4:08 PM, Tampa Turtle said: I think the logic is some girls want to DO the same things as boys but not BE boys. Therefore some accommodation of the uniform may be needed and ,while I wish scouts had remained male only, an altogether reasonable step. Equality of program and opportunity should not equate to exactness of the cut of clothing; especially when we have older female scouts. Not any worse than changing some of the kerchief colors IMHO. The Military has male and female members and their are variations in female versions of gear and clothing. this. Link to post Share on other sites
Gwaihir 198 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 all I'm seeing here is a bunch of men mansplaining why girls getting clothing they want is a bad thing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Gwaihir 198 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) On 4/22/2018 at 12:27 AM, The Latin Scot said: Wow, the girl in the last pic looks exactly like my niece! Frankly though, I still prefer the yellow neckerchief with the Cub Scout uniform, although I do understand the convenience of establishing uniformity with all the color schemes. "blue and gold" are the colors of the Cub Scouts. The "Pack" and the "wolf" are at the center of the "Cub Scouts". Changing Wolves to red is foolish. Make the lions red. Edited May 21, 2018 by Gwaihir 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
FireStone 423 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 17 hours ago, Gwaihir said: "blue and gold" are the colors of the Cub Scouts. The "Pack" and the "wolf" are at the center of the "Cub Scouts". Changing Wolves to red is foolish. Make the lions red. I don't think it's foolish at all. Pretty smart, actually. Wolves have been the only rank that has the primary "brand" colors of Cub Scouts as their rank colors. Now we have blue and gold as the overall Cub Scout colors, and we distinguish all ranks individually with their own unique colors. Wolves now have a rank color that is truly unique to them, they're not sharing colors with the whole pack. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Eagle1993 2160 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Wolf patch has been red as far back as I can remember. It was always confusing why each patch color matched the neckerchief except Wolf (and perhaps Webelos). With introduction of Lions the change makes sense. Link to post Share on other sites
RememberSchiff 3662 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Perhaps @Gwaihir was referring to red neckerchiefs for Wolf. Link to post Share on other sites
Eagle1993 2160 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 And I agree that they should change the neckerchief to red to match the traditional/current color of the patch. Today is confusing for some parents ... I have had some question the yellow neckerchief color. I was never a fan of the Wolf mix of colors (yellow hat/necker but red patch). Today we have Lions Yellow Patch, No Necker Tigers Orange Patch, Orange Necker Wolves Red Patch, Yellow Necker Bears Blue Patch, Blue Necker Webelos Tan/Blue Patch, Plaid Necker w/Webelos Logo Future we will have: Lions Yellow Patch, Yellow Necker Tigers Orange Patch, Orange Necker Wolves Red Patch, Red Necker Bears Blue Patch, Blue Necker Webelos Tan Patch, Plaid Necker w/Webelos Logo Seems to make sense. Understand that transitions will take time and we should allow those to use up their old uniforms/patches. That said, having patches, hat, necker & book colors align makes those aspects of the program easier to communicate to families new to BSA. This isn't life or death or really that critical, but I can completely see where National is coming from with this change. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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