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Would you ask an Eagle candidate at his BoR what he thinks about the membership change?

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I mean no disrespect, but that’s how you think it will go. There may be someone who totally is set on “I want all my candidates to say no they do not support the program otherwise...â€, you get the point. I’m just saying you wouldn’t care of the answer, which is great, but some may be biased.

So, on account of some scout who might have to face down micro-aggression from a hypothetical scouter "out there" with some agenda looking to hear his/her precious shibboleth during a personal growth conference, you're saying that I should tell all the good scouters on the interweb to curb their enthusiasm?

 

Well, maybe I'll change my tune ... as soon as they scratch the tenth point from the Law!

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My older son My son then started quoting parts of the Koran (which I had no idea he knew) in Arabic in illustrating his position.

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Like when he argued with the Orthodox Rabbi and could cite Talmud passages from memory. (which all Rabbi's love)

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LOL I just heard my older son rebuked his jrAFROTC Colonel (ret.) over some disorganization with "My Boy Scout Troop is better organized than this!". I do not think he liked that one bit.

Argumentative lil' fella ain't he? Good for him. :)

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I asked the question at an EBofR this past weekend. He initially answered, "What is probably more interesting is what the Girl Scouts think of this decision". I thought he was going to try to avoid the question all together like a typical politician, but he ended up giving a thoughtful answer with his reasoning. He would not have passed or failed because of any answer he would have given. Our district representative said afterward that he was prepared to ask the same question as well, if I didn't. I think the question is 100% appropriate. Why would we not want the opinion of a Scout? Boy led troop, right?

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One issue that I have with this particular question, especially at this early stage, is whether the person answering the question - and for that matter the person asking the question - actually understands what has been decided.  There are a lot of misconceptions floating around about what has been decided, and differing opinions about what will actually happen as a result of the decision, apart from what has actually been decided.  We see it in this forum.  I saw it at a roundtable last night.  And you can't tell someone that they are mistaken, because this is what they "heard", and they're sticking to it. 

 

My answer, if I were a Scout in that position, would be something like "I'd like to wait for all of the details to be announced before I give an opinion."  That is not evading the question.  That is responsible citizenship.

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He did not evade the question - I thought he was going to. However, I would have been impressed if he chose to avoid it because it is a controversial topic. As I said, he gave a well thought out and impressive answer. 

 

Yes, he was very familiar with the Chief Scout Executive's statement from last week and what the plans were at the Cub Scout level in 2018 and the initial idea of what would happen with Boy Scouts starting in 2019. Most of the adults read the statement as well. It was not "what they heard". We would have corrected him if he based his answer on a false premise. 

 

I see no problem in asking an Eagle candidate his opinion on how the troop is run or what they would do to improve it. We've been asking this question for years and have gotten great ideas. I also see no reason to not ask a highly intelligent, accomplished Eagle candidate, who has been part of Scouting since he was 7 years old, his opinion of the organization he is part of, the BSA, when they are about to make a major, controversial change in their program. 

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It is a fair question for an Eagle Board of Review.  There are no right or wrong answers to the questions that are asked during an Eagle Board of Review.  Now are there questions that should not be asked during the board of review.  Yes but I do not feel like this is one of them.  A better question could be his opinion about girls also being able to become Eagle Scouts starting in 2019.   

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Personally, as a Life Scout who is near Eagle, would find a question like that invading my personal opinion and thoughts. I don’t think you should ask a Scout their opinion when your opinion may be different.

 

You will likely get a lot of questions about your opinions. What was your favorite x? What was your least favorite y? How could Scouting/your troop/summer camp be improved? What does becoming an Eagle Scout mean to you? How will you give back to Scouting?

 

When I ask "personal opinion" questions, I am concerned with HOW a Scout responds, not that their opinion is aligned with mine. Do they pass on the question, give an off the cuff or dismissive answer, or do they consider the issue and give a well thought out answer.

 

Routinely I see Scouts/Scouters say "they didn't ask me," when it comes to policy changes, so why wouldn't we want to ask those who are sitting review for Scouting's highest award?

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