krikkitbot 71 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Interesting observation from the uniform checklist Here is the text in question: "Male Cub Scout and Boy Scout leaders wear the official pants or the official uniform shorts or pants with no cuffs." So, as I read and reread this sentence, it seems that one can wear: Official Pants Official Shorts Any pants with no cuffs Since I never cuff my jeans, I think that wearing jeans is perfectly acceptable. Oh also, note that just showing up is worth 15 points! Link to post Share on other sites
NJCubScouter 1389 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Interesting observation from the uniform checklist Here is the text in question: "Male Cub Scout and Boy Scout leaders wear the official pants or the official uniform shorts or pants with no cuffs." So, as I read and reread this sentence, it seems that one can wear: Official Pants Official Shorts Any pants with no cuffs Since I never cuff my jeans, I think that wearing jeans is perfectly acceptable. Well, my suspicion is that what they really mean is "the official uniform pants with no cuffs or the official uniform shorts." I realize that's not what it says. I think it's just very poorly written, which would not make it unique for a BSA publication. It looks like a sentence that was "written by committee." Link to post Share on other sites
RememberSchiff 3603 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 or go Donald Duck 2 Link to post Share on other sites
qwazse 4325 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Nice try sneaking that in there ... Any ... Attendance? Well, that's useful if you're scoring a patrol or a unit based on the membership roster. Someone present at least bumps the average. Link to post Share on other sites
The Latin Scot 961 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 The poor writing is precisely the problem. It is attempting to state that you may wear either the uniform pants OR the uniform shorts, but whether you choose the pants or the shorts, neither may be worn with cuffs. It's not written well at all, of course, but it doesn't take great reading skills to be able to discern the intention from the quotation. I would be more troubled by anybody who tries to find loopholes in the writing as an excuse to be sloppy in one's own uniforming. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
krikkitbot 71 Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 The poor writing is precisely the problem. It is attempting to state that you may wear either the uniform pants OR the uniform shorts, but whether you choose the pants or the shorts, neither may be worn with cuffs. It's not written well at all, of course, but it doesn't take great reading skills to be able to discern the intention from the quotation. I would be more troubled by anybody who tries to find loopholes in the writing as an excuse to be sloppy in one's own uniforming. I honestly do not see how you are getting that neither may be worn with cuffs? If that was the intent, they would not have had to write "pants" twice. Link to post Share on other sites
krikkitbot 71 Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 Nice try sneaking that in there Attendance? Well, that's useful if you're scoring a patrol or a unit based on the membership roster. Someone present at least bumps the average. Ok, I added the "any" but even if you remove it, it says pants with no cuffs. My slacks all have cuffs, so that's out. Link to post Share on other sites
Tampa Turtle 1011 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 No cuffs! Where are we supposed to tap the cigarette ash? Link to post Share on other sites
NJCubScouter 1389 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 or go Donald Duck Looks like multiple YP violations to me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
RememberSchiff 3603 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 (edited) Looks like multiple YP violations to me. I see scouts wearing neckers and properly over the collar. Edited August 22, 2017 by RememberSchiff Link to post Share on other sites
qwazse 4325 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 No cuffs! Where are we supposed to tap the cigarette ash? Mr. SPL, you may doc 10 points as needed for any off-the-cuff remarks. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
qwazse 4325 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 (edited) The uniform police will need more space under insignia to calculate the correct number of palms on the Eagle knot. SPL: Sir, may I have the date of your board of review please? Thank you. Now, MB and award cards in chronological order, please? Ooops, looks like you're one palm short. That's -5 points. ... No sir, solidarity with Eagles whose BoR was a month before yours does not garner leniency. Edited August 22, 2017 by qwazse Link to post Share on other sites
Oldscout448 697 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Mr. SPL, you may doc 10 points as needed for any off-the-cuff remarks. Groan Link to post Share on other sites
NJCubScouter 1389 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 I see scouts wearing neckers and properly over the collar. Which would be great if any of them were wearing pants, and the YP guidelines don't care about cuffs or no cuffs. Not to mention that there seems to be one-deep leadership. Link to post Share on other sites
Stosh 3452 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Okay, let me get this straight a PAIR (2) of pants (plural) is how many pant? 2 or 4? Then again a pair (2) of shorts (plural)? How many does one need to pass the inspection. I do believe that one is going to need some sort of calculator for this one. It sounds like one of those math word problems that never made sense because if I had 40 watermelons and gave 25 away, how many do I still have. Well, who has 40 watermelons in the first place and if one ever grows zucchini, it's tough to give one away let alone 25 of them suckers. And now what do I do with the last 15 watermelon? I toss them, I don't like watermelon and unless I end up with zero, I ain't gonna be a happy camper. Link to post Share on other sites
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