Scout12 5 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 What is the "law" and guidlines for project work especially if no committe members show but other scouts and adults do? We have a month till 18th so we are in go mode. He should be done with only a couple more dates of 2-3 hours, but getting com keeps coming up, What's the take on it? Link to post Share on other sites
NealOnWheels 73 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 No committee members are required. Link to post Share on other sites
jwest09 51 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Why would a committee member need to be present during the project work? Link to post Share on other sites
Scout12 5 Posted May 12, 2017 Author Share Posted May 12, 2017 Our Troop says that-is it listed on the BSA web site to check on-we are in Three Fires in the western suburbs of Chicago , Sycamore, IL Link to post Share on other sites
Back Pack 431 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Our Troop says that-is it listed on the BSA web site to check on-we are in Three Fires in the western suburbs of Chicago , Sycamore, IL Do these leaders perhap mean that a trained leader must be present? Link to post Share on other sites
Scout12 5 Posted May 12, 2017 Author Share Posted May 12, 2017 I'll have to ask-but what happens if no other scouts or helpers are there-do we go ahead and work on it anyway even if notice was given? Link to post Share on other sites
NealOnWheels 73 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 What would a trained leader have to do with it? He does not need a leader trained or otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites
NealOnWheels 73 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 He needs to demonstrate leadership in his project. If he has no helpers it is difficult to show leadership. Link to post Share on other sites
NealOnWheels 73 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 The "we" comments are concerning me. This is his project not yours. You jeopardize his chances for Eagle if you make it your project. Link to post Share on other sites
RememberSchiff 3671 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) Supervision To meet the requirement to “give leadership to others,†your Scout must be given every opportunity to succeed independently without direct supervision. The Scout’s troop must provide adults to assist or keep an eye on things, and your organization should also have someone available. The Scout, however, must provide the leadership necessary for project completion without adult interference. http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/510-025.pdf Edited May 12, 2017 by RememberSchiff Link to post Share on other sites
Back Pack 431 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) What would a trained leader have to do with it? He does not need a leader trained or otherwise. Ah read the quote above. It's considered a unit event so the BSA requires the same adult coverage they would for any unit event. Our district insists on this too. The adults can stand around as usual but you can't have 16 year olds using chainsaws. The unit lead needs to make sure Sweet 16 and Tools Guidelines are followed. Yes the candidate leads, just like youth at Philmont lead...but they don't hit the trail alone, do they? Edited May 12, 2017 by Back Pack Link to post Share on other sites
Back Pack 431 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 I'll have to ask-but what happens if no other scouts or helpers are there-do we go ahead and work on it anyway even if notice was given? Check out the guide to advancement. I believe the minimum number is three. Link to post Share on other sites
jwest09 51 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Based on how I'm reading the original question, "other adults" are showing up, just not unit committee members. I don't see that as a problem. Link to post Share on other sites
scoutldr 732 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Adult leaders are VOLUNTEERS. We don't HAVE to do anything. Link to post Share on other sites
Back Pack 431 Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Adult leaders are VOLUNTEERS. We don't HAVE to do anything. You do if the bsa guidelines require someone trained to be someplace to support unit activities. Link to post Share on other sites
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