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Cubmaster Pete

Running a Frontier Girls program concurrent with a Cub Scout Pack

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 My girls are also part of coed BSA programs, one being a pilot program based on Venturing but for middle school ages (which I am associate advisor for). We have a lot of interest in my district for trying something similar for Cub ages. 

 

I would like to know more about that too. PM me if you can!

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A church should have insurance to cover it's children's ministries. That policy will usually require background checks on adults. However, my experience has been that churches tend to be under-prepared in the YPT department. It would be a simple matter to decide that your own policy will require background checks and YPT. You do not have to be BSA registered in order to take YPT. Anyone can do it.

 

About the pilot program: it is an Explorer Club and part of "Learning for Life". This seems to be the avenue BSA takes to test new programs. I'm pretty sure the Lions went this way, and I think that's also how Stem Scouts is working.

 

Our program was planned using the Boy Scouts curriculum and incorporating elements from Venturing. We've had some older Venture scouts assisting and mentoring. In the beginning, things were more scout led with the older Ventures leading the younger Explorers. Now, they have mostly moved on to college. Evidently, there are 5 new units in the big city to our north that have taken off- maybe from what we started. Not sure if they're using the program planning we developed or not. It was shared with our district exec. so he may have shared it on up the line.

 

We started out with a good size group, but girls have moved and our numbers are dwindling. We do have a lot of interest so plan on doing some big recruitment efforts to get the word out this spring.

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About the pilot program: it is an Explorer Club and part of "Learning for Life". This seems to be the avenue BSA takes to test new programs. I'm pretty sure the Lions went this way, and I think that's also how Stem Scouts is working.

 

Our program was planned using the Boy Scouts curriculum and incorporating elements from Venturing. We've had some older Venture scouts assisting and mentoring. In the beginning, things were more scout led with the older Ventures leading the younger Explorers. Now, they have mostly moved on to college. Evidently, there are 5 new units in the big city to our north that have taken off- maybe from what we started. Not sure if they're using the program planning we developed or not. It was shared with our district exec. so he may have shared it on up the line.

 

 

 

 

Ok so you used Boy Scout program in LFL then, and that was acceptable. Got it.

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I'm not sure I understand your question, but the curriculum was rewritten with the boy scout and venturing programs as a framework. Advancement and everything are all new that were come up with specifically for this unit. Our advancement more closely resembles that for venturing.

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We were given the OK, as far as copyright goes to incorporate content from BSA publications. We operate within our council pretty much like a crew, but with boy scout age specific guidelines. We have a different shirt supplier for a new color from other programs- but use the normal council patches,worldcrest, etc.., our own unit numerals, and Explorer position patches.

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OK and update to where my unit is in this process...

 

We decided to start a FG troop (a group of parents that are associated with the pack) We are working on getting the CO lined up. We are going to have FG meetings separate from the pack, but join up for most pack events (pack meetings, etc...) Den meetings would not be combined. I think that this is a better option.

 

Other than den meeting environment, the program we offer would be pretty much co-ed

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As safety consultant Hap Pigsley notes, that out of every 330 times someone does something of questionable safety, they can get away with it 300 times.  But 29 times out of 330 there will be injury, and according to the odds, 1 time will result in death.  At the seminar he taught he then handed out of large jar of what looked like Tootsie Rolls.  He said, "There are 330 pieces in that jar. 300 are really Tootsie rolls, 29 are going to make someone really sick, and one piece in there will actually kill you.  Help yourself if you wish."   He then went on to say in all the years of doing safety seminars, he has never had anyone take a piece out of the jar.

 

Best of luck on the program.

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I'm coming to this thread late, but I am a leader in a FG troop that another Cub Scout Mom and I started, while also being a Bear den leader. We do not run the two programs concurrently, however we do often combine events, like movie nights and allowing our FG to join in Pinewood Derby and the like. It's working out very well for us so far, hopefully it will run as smoothly for you, @@Cubmaster Pete.

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Just so you know there is a coed scouting organization. It's not BSA so your kids will never earn an eagle rank but you dan run a successful group without having to cobble two groups together.

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