qwazse 4333 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Practical illustrations of risks due to lightning along with explanation of how the damage occurs are hard to come by. This involves animals, not people, and thus may be easier to show to your boys. Plus, the explanation of the physics behind a strike (comparing why four footed species are likely to suffer more harm than two-footed) might help scouts understand our strategy of squatting in a broad circle if we can't find shelter. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/31/science/lightning-strike-dead-reindeer.html 1 Link to post Share on other sites
RememberSchiff 3627 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Or tell the story of 23 scouts injured at a June, 2013 NYLT course at Camp Bell (NH). Camp site top of hill, scouts clustered under a tarp with aluminum poles,between tall white pines during lightning storm. http://www.wmur.com/news/nh-news/several-reported-hit-by-lightning-at-boy-scout-camp/20700536 1 Link to post Share on other sites
qwazse 4333 Posted September 1, 2016 Author Share Posted September 1, 2016 Or tell the story of 23 scouts injured at a June, 2013 NYLT course at Camp Bell (NH). Camp site top of hill, scouts clustered under a tarp with aluminum poles,between tall white pines during lightning storm. http://www.wmur.com/news/nh-news/several-reported-hit-by-lightning-at-boy-scout-camp/20700536 The story-telling is important. But, as with most strike reports, you have to add your knowledge from training and experience to explain why the boys were at increased risk by not spreading out (assuming they couldn't reach a grounded shelter). What I liked about the Times report: Pictures of the aftermath (which you may want to withhold depending on the maturity of your scouts). That would never happen with an human story. A written explanation of the mechanics of high voltage electricity ... especially in relation to mammalian conductors! Why four points on the ground is more risky than two, which is more risky than one (i.e. squatting with legs together). References to other stories of strikes on animals and humans around the world. Link to post Share on other sites
RichardB 219 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Or you could share incident reviews: http://www.scouting.org/Home/HealthandSafety/incident_report.aspx Bottom of page - How to: http://www.scouting.org/filestore/HealthSafety/pdf/680-056_1.pdf Lightning: http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/680-056_Lightning.pdf Highly recommend the LDS video of Sam the Cloud..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
RememberSchiff 3627 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 (edited) Or you could share incident reviews: http://www.scouting.org/Home/HealthandSafety/incident_report.aspx Bottom of page - How to: http://www.scouting.org/filestore/HealthSafety/pdf/680-056_1.pdf Lightning: http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/680-056_Lightning.pdf Highly recommend the LDS video of Sam the Cloud..... Ok, share then. I want to query the incident reporting database for lightning injuries and whitewater rafting injuries at BSA activities in the Northeast in say the last 5 years. How do I do that? Edited September 1, 2016 by RememberSchiff Link to post Share on other sites
RichardB 219 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 That's not possible at this time, but you might want to touch base or support your councils ERM committee so that you can have some input. Link to post Share on other sites
qwazse 4333 Posted September 2, 2016 Author Share Posted September 2, 2016 Schiff, this sounds like one of those projects that an improved IT infrastructure could manage. Might be worth sending a note to put your hat in the ring to test it! @@RichardB, I would definitely use the selected incident reports for training (maybe even more so, if it included the field of smitten reindeer). This is something I would pull out of my pack to show once we were out of cellphone coverage and distractions are few. Are they already in printed form (e.g. a flip-book) for purchase? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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