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My Senator, Dick Durbin, Minority Whip has publically said he'd have to "think long and hard" about whether a religious school should maintain their tax-exempt status if they hold employees to a religious code.  I don't think it's much of a stretch for lawyers to start parsing the meaning of the word is in order to find justification to destroy whatever they want destroyed.

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Since BSA is easing membership restrictions can we PLEASE lobby for them to ease up on beer at summer camp? Nothing's better than a nice micro-brew after a 10 mile hike in the Rockies. And I am pretty sure we could get a MUCH larger number of BSA members to support THAT policy change. 

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I regret that I have but one click to give to this campaign.

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BSA gets left with what out of 100,000 units?

 

100,000 units? BSA has not seen that many units in a long while.

 

If you look at the page referenced, there are about 75,000 units chartered by religious organizations, about 10,000 from civic organizations, and about 7,000 related to schools. 92k units by my rough adding. There are 38,000 LDS units but they seem to have small units (11 kids per unit).

 

The data is 18 months old and was revised downward during mid 2013 to 96,000 units. The 2014 number was around 93,000 or so (have to check the BSA source).

 

Below are the unit stats from BSA since 2007. 100k is three years in the rear view mirror.

 

2007      

50,780

50,213

49,037

Total= 112,647

 

2008

47,418

45,962

44,830

Total= 111,839

2009

43,110

41,947

41,628

Total= 109,786

2010

40,997

40,146

39,392

Total= 106,464

 

2011

38,713

37,739

19,920

Total= 103,207

 

2012

19,998

19,752

18,900

Total= 100,618

 

2013

17,853

17,075

16,013            

Total= 96,862

 

Sorry, didn't notice these replies.  The tally on the page I linked is not complete—it can't be used to assert any definite number of units.  It only includes numbers for the "top 25 faith-based organizations" (based on membership) and states that

 

"Over 100,000 Scouting units are owned and operated by chartered organizations. Of these:

  • 71.5 percent of all units are chartered to faith-based organizations.
  • 21.3 percent of all units are chartered to civic organizations.
  • 7.2 percent of all units are chartered to educational organizations."

 

The point of the post you were replying to was not to assert a concrete number of units—94,000, 100,000 the point of the post doesn't change. 

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The point of the post you were replying to was not to assert a concrete number of units—94,000, 100,000 the point of the post doesn't change. 

 

That's 2013 data before it was revised downward. The number of units after the revision downward was 96,000. By 2014 it was 93,000. The number with the soon-to-be-released mid-year 2015 numbers is below 91,000. 

 

So yes, 100,000 units was true in 2012, but not since. Hence the comment that BSA is looking in the rear view mirror at 100,000 units....and is not likely to see that number again.

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it is if your chartered by a non faith based organization.  I found this out the hard way the past few days.

 

 

Any BSA unit that is considered a public accommodation is required to admit atheists.

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Since BSA is easing membership restrictions can we PLEASE lobby for them to ease up on beer at summer camp? Nothing's better than a nice micro-brew after a 10 mile hike in the Rockies. And I am pretty sure we could get a MUCH larger number of BSA members to support THAT policy change. 

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Yeah, that's not going to happen.  If it is beer while chaperoning a youth event, may I suggest hockey.  It's pretty common for kids to be left in hotel rooms with one adult present and the rest of the adults heading out to the local pub for a few drinks.  That happens regularly even today.  

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So you don't think that Russell T. Davies exists?

 

As atheists don't believe in a higher level of existence, the premise of the question is wrong.

 

It is more correct to say there is a set of temporarily bonded molecules that are collectively known by that label.  Those molecules demonstrate a complex pattern of chaotic behavior giving the illusion of the existence of such a being.  

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Yeah, that's not going to happen.  If it is beer while chaperoning a youth event, may I suggest hockey.  It's pretty common for kids to be left in hotel rooms with one adult present and the rest of the adults heading out to the local pub for a few drinks.  That happens regularly even today.  

 

Well if we are truly accepting of lifestyles we should allow just about anything as long as it does not disable us from doing our jobs. Isn't that the argument?

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Well if we are truly accepting of lifestyles we should allow just about anything as long as it does not disable us from doing our jobs. Isn't that the argument?

 

Yes, but one must always take into consideration the hypocritical political dynamics of the process.   We have always led by example and every child knows the mantra, "Don't do as I do, do as I say."

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Well if we are truly accepting of lifestyles we should allow just about anything as long as it does not disable us from doing our jobs. Isn't that the argument?

Who is making that argument?

 

And I am not sure what "accepting of lifestyles" means.

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Who is making that argument?

 

And I am not sure what "accepting of lifestyles" means.

 

Really? Sorry, can't help you if you don't know what those who oppose the ban are being asked to do.

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As atheists don't believe in a higher level of existence, the premise of the question is wrong.

 

 

No, atheists just don't believe in gods.  Gods aren't the only suggested way that a "higher level of existence" can be true.

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