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If someone designs, manufactures, and sells knot patches not authorized by BSA for use on a Scout uniform, it is reasonable to expect to be bashed about it. Your position on this brings doubt to the validity of the rest of your web site.

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In case I was not clear, my opinion is the same as Bob's. If there is a need for new insignia, then let National know our wishes and hope that they agree. There is a precedent, since there is a square knot for those who have won awards in their fraternal organization or military (MOVSM).

 

I have also seen a knot being sold on ebay for BSA Lifeguard. Since I am a BSALG and BSALG Counselor, it is tempting, but I do not wear one because it is not authorized.

 

What I especially disagree with is creating patches and awards and other for-profit materials using BSA logos and trademarks without permission.

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My couple of cents!!

While I agree that this is a good idea.

I would have no problem if both organizations got together and did manages to work out something? ( I really don't know what the feelings of the GSUSA are toward Venturing??)

Still even with the best intentions in the world, people shouldn't start adding stuff to the official BSA uniform.

If the Crew members wanted to use the patch design as a logo for a T-shirt and then make the T-shirt their uniform. That would be fine.

I am very proud that I am a Queens Scouts, and have at times worn my QS Neckerchief and woggle. I do not wear the patch on the BSA uniform (No not even as a temp patch) because it isn't a BSA award or a BSA approved patch. If one day the BSA decided that Eamonn could start to wear it, I would be fine with that. However until that day I am OK not wearing it and I sure as heck am not going to design and wear a knot.

Eagle Scouts who serve in adult leadership positions in UK Scouting can't wear their Eagle badges either. Maybe a World Scout Task force might want to look into some kind of patch that shows that youth members did reach the highest rank available to them in whatever Scout Organization or Association that they were in, but seeing how long it took for the World Friendship Badge to become accepted, I think I will be hearing Scoutmaster minutes from the Great Scoutmaster in the sky first-hand, before that comes along.

Eamonn.

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Wow, this is an old thread! The question came up in another context and found this looking for insight here. Since the thread was last updated, there have been some developments, at least according to this http://www.scoutinsignia.com/cnclknot.htm:

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Unofficial Girl Scout Gold Award Square Knot Girl Scouts of the USA Gold Award 2
Unofficial Girl Scout Gold Award square knot

Emblem Description: gold square knot representing the Girl Scout Gold Award (the highest award available in that movement) on a middle green background with a silver border (left). There is also a version which has a mylar gold border (right).

Girl Scouts of the USA Gold Award
Girl Scouts of the USA (GSUSA) Gold Award (lapel) Pin, the highest award in Girl Scouting (equal to BSA's Eagle Award)

Background/Justification: Between 2009 and 2014, fourteen local Council Scout Executives in various parts of the nation APPROVED this unofficial insignia to be worn by Gold Award holders (or who previously earned the Girl Scout First Class Award) who are currently registered as Venturers, Venturing leaders or Boy Scouters.

The BSA approved the wearing of the small Girl Scout Gold Award pin to be worn centered on the left pocket of the Venturing field uniform in 2009; with the new Venturing award placement starting in 2014, the Gold Award pin may be worn centered on the left pocket flap between the button and the top edge of the pocket flap.

 

 

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On 1/29/2020 at 9:59 AM, Protoclete said:

Wow, this is an old thread! The question came up in another context and found this looking for insight here. Since the thread was last updated, there have been some developments, at least according to this http://www.scoutinsignia.com/cnclknot.htm:

Ancient thread, but I appreciate your updated post....very interesting!  I wasn't even aware that councils would approve their own locally worn knots.

I think that with girls now allowed to participate in the Scouts BSA program, you might have more interest in these knots for the Gold award.  

How many councils have approved that gold knot?  Just a couple?  Lots?  

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