PeteM 10 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 The York-Adams Area Council recently merged with the Keystone Council in PA. Their temporary name was Keystone York-Adams Area Council, but the "fine" powers that be, decided to name the council "The New Birth of Freedom Council". What do you-all think of this new name? Pete (edited for spelling)(This message has been edited by PeteM) Link to post Share on other sites
DeanRx 69 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 Do they plan to offer a Lamaze merit badge course ?! Sounds kind of hokey to me, but I'm not in that part of the country. Not sure what part of PA you are in, but couldn't they just name it after the geographical area served (i.e. the southeast PA area council)? Link to post Share on other sites
Scoutfish 16 Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Why not call it Ben's red hot FRANklins distric? LOL! Seriously, is there not some regional landmark who's name could be used? Link to post Share on other sites
shortridge 184 Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Makes sense if it includes Gettysburg. The phrase is from a little speech that a guy named Abe gave there a while back. Link to post Share on other sites
Twocubdad 665 Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Yeah, maybe if were the Four-Score and Seven Council folks would catch the reference. Now that I mention it, Four-Score and Seven Council rolls off the tounge a lot easier than The New Birth Of Freedom Council. Link to post Share on other sites
OldGrayOwl 10 Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Yep, It includes Gettysburg. That city is located in Adams county in PA. It still doesn't sound like much of a Boy Scout council name, does it? I just got word from our District rep about the name. I mean they could have called it the South-Central district. That would have made more sense that this one. Link to post Share on other sites
desertrat77 1144 Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Pete, it sounds like the New Name Committee tried too hard to be inclusive, visionary, purposeful, strategic, etc. The result? It looks like both councils' lineage is obscured. I'll bet you a cup of coffee they will change it to something clearer within a year. Link to post Share on other sites
moosetracker 132 Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 All I can say is "YIKES!!!!" Did anyone think about having to write that out?? and How big is your shoulder patch going to be to host that name on it? Any room left for a design on that patch? Link to post Share on other sites
NJCubScouter 1389 Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 How about just "Freedom Council"? Or is there already one of those? Link to post Share on other sites
OldGrayOwl 10 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 I like what was the interim name: the Keystone-York-Adams Area Council, or in it's shortened use: KYAC or kayak. Link to post Share on other sites
PeteM 10 Posted July 26, 2010 Author Share Posted July 26, 2010 It's amazing, I talked to a bunch of both scouts and scouters, and no one likes it. I do hope that they change the name to something more palatable. Link to post Share on other sites
CubScoutJo 10 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 I really thought we should have just stayed with Keystone Council, which really fits more, since Pennsylvania is the Keystone State, and the Keystone is a very recognizable symbol. It's just a great name for a council. Just as United and Continental airlines are going to merge, and yet chose to use the name "United Airlines" sometimes the best name is one you already have. I'm not sure what happened with this naming. First, they held a contest. However, the units weren't given a vote in this contest. Then they said they were going to announce the new name at our program launch in June. But when it came time to announce it, instead, they said that they had picked a name, but the name went all the way to National and was disapproved because it sounded too much like another name. Now, I am not sure if this New Birth of Freedom name was the one that was first disapproved, or if it was one of the other choices submitted for the contest, or if it was just some entirely new name that someone came up with. It would have been nice if the units did have a say, maybe one vote each. Because so far, everyone I've talked to about the new name, has not been in favor of it. Link to post Share on other sites
OldGrayOwl 10 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 The name that they tried was Susquehannock. National disapproved it because it sounded too much like Susquehanna, which IS another council name. Link to post Share on other sites
sherminator505 10 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 It's amazing what will come out of focus groups sometimes... Link to post Share on other sites
Eagle92 110 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 But aren't there 2 Piedmont councils, one in CA and the other in NC? Why yes there are two Piedmont Councils. Link to post Share on other sites
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