Merlyn_LeRoy 72 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Ah Brewmeister, a very Christian answer. I really mean that. Link to post Share on other sites
Brewmeister 132 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Who said I was Christian? That's a pretty big assumption on your part. On the other hand, we know that you are anti-God and pro-sodomy, which always makes me wonder what you are doing on a scouting forum other than to jab at people who don't agree with you. Link to post Share on other sites
Merlyn_LeRoy 72 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 When did I say you were Christian? I only said your answer was very Christian. You weren't around earlier, where I helped get rid of public school BSA charters. Link to post Share on other sites
Brewmeister 132 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 A very predictable response, yet you are making another assumption in your reply...that I was not around then. That's the great thing about the Internet...but you are no stranger to changing aliases now, are you? I believe in something bigger than myself, and I don't mean BJ Raji. The problem with believing in atheism is the odd combination of nihilism and self-loathing that comes with it. As a result, believers in athiesm have to spend time denigrating the beliefs of theists--it's totally predictable. Link to post Share on other sites
NJCubScouter 1389 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Brewmeister says: The problem with believing in atheism is the odd combination of nihilism and self-loathing that comes with it. As a result, believers in athiesm have to spend time denigrating the beliefs of theists--it's totally predictable. Actually, most atheists I have known do not denigrate the beliefs of others, as Merlyn sometimes does. On the other hand, I have known many believers in God, of a wide variety of different religions, who denigrate the religious beliefs (and non-beliefs) of others -- and many that don't. Some of those believers who do denigrate the religious beliefs of others have done so right here in this very forum -- and they have outnumbered our one resident "avowed" atheist. Link to post Share on other sites
Merlyn_LeRoy 72 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 When have I "changed aliases"? I believe my house is bigger than me, otherwise I wouldn't fit. Link to post Share on other sites
packsaddle 753 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 It sounded to me like Brewmeister implied that HE had changed aliases - and that's why you might be mistaken about how long he's been around the forums. I could be wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
Brewmeister 132 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Actually, most atheists I have known do not denigrate the beliefs of others You must not know any of those "freedom from religion" folks... Link to post Share on other sites
Peregrinator 85 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 What does it mean when a non-Christian says that something is "Christian," even sarcastically? I can't imagine that an atheist would be a good judge of whether something is Christian or not. Link to post Share on other sites
OldGreyEagle 5 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Threads like this used to upset me a lot, first it would be to Breweister, is that scoutlike? Then to Merlyn, hey don't talk like that and now it's if you play in the mud you will get muddy. Merlyn has a right to his thoughts as does Brewmeister and everyone gets to decide if they want to read on On the other hand, this past weekend Runners World magazine hosted their first Runners Festival in Bethlehem PA, they had a 5K and 10K on Saturday Oct 20 and then a half Marathon on Oct 21. People who did all three did the "Hat Trick" and I was among those. Before each race they sang the national anthem and I have to say I was impresed. As much as everyone was talking and chatting, once they realized the Star Spangled Banner was being sung, they all were silent. It was better than anybody putting up the sign. For the half Marathon, 3,000 peole were talking and fell silent in 15 seconds, no side conversations, just quiet. A pair of runners, in full firefighter regalia replete with helemt and ax and an American flag. WHile the Star Spangled Banner was being sung, the runner hoisted the AMerican flag and people took off their hats and had hands on hearts. It was breathtaking. Then the song stopped and the race was on and 13.1 miles later I was done, so done... ANyway, we get to argue all we want, have fun and well, be happy we live here Link to post Share on other sites
qwazse 4344 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Kudos to you OGE. Having just sprained my ankle (fortunately after my scheduled backpacking trip), I'm impressed with anyone who runs any distance! Bethlehem is pretty hilly, was the course? I think OGE makes the point that scouting doesn't have a lock on all things good for boys. We do take a leap that faith and patriotism are linked. (And maybe some of you are looking at your candidates right now thinking "it's going to take a miracle".) That's not always the case. As a scouter, I use the outdoors to promote a theistic world view. That's for one simple reason. I've had more serious (and possibly decisive) discussions about faith on the trail than I have had under the roof of a house of worship. Link to post Share on other sites
Merlyn_LeRoy 72 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Peregrinator writes: What does it mean when a non-Christian says that something is "Christian," even sarcastically? Well, what I meant by that is that it was the usual sort of insult that Christians typically use. Link to post Share on other sites
Peregrinator 85 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Well, what I meant by that is that it was the usual sort of insult that Christians typically use. Tell me more about this. Do you mean Christians on the Internet or in real life? Unprovoked, or after you push a couple of buttons? Link to post Share on other sites
NJCubScouter 1389 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Brewmeister, my use of the word "most" implies that I have known atheists who do not respect the religious beliefs of others. As I also said, I have known religious people who don't respect the beliefs of others, and I have known people in both categories who do respect the beliefs of others. As for "freedom from religion", that is one of those "labels" that I think don't contributes much to a conversation. In some cases it is used as a "self-label" and in others (including your post) it is used as a derogatory label. I'll leave the labeling to you. Link to post Share on other sites
Sentinel947 1205 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 The place I have seen the most denigration of beliefs by ANY group of people is this forum. Already in this thread we've had the vitriol fly in both directions. Link to post Share on other sites
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