We Need Larger Families

[vol_scouter 365]

The way to stem the tide of an incoming horde is to close the borders and deny immigration to the groups that are not wanted. The only way to change the percentage of different groups in a population without immigration is to increase the mortality of the desired group or increase the birth rate of the favored group.

[Lisabob 13]

hrm? I must have missed where hard-working, upwardly mobile people were supposed to be denied entry to America because they were the wrong religion.

[Merlyn_LeRoy 72]

vol_scouter writes:

The way to stem the tide of an incoming horde is to close the borders and deny immigration to the groups that are not wanted. The only way to change the percentage of different groups in a population without immigration is to increase the mortality of the desired group or increase the birth rate of the favored group.

 

Wrong; you can also:

1) change the criteria of who is in this week's "favored" or "disfavored" groups;

or

2) have people move from the "disfavored" to the "favored" category (or vice-versa) via any of the numerous ways people change or improve;

or even

3) stop playing the master race game altogether.

[TheScout 10]

This is why the quota acts were good.

[Trevorum 24]

So if I look into my crystal ball at the year 2100 and see an America that is prosperous, vigorous, just, and democratic, but is predominantly Islamic, that is a bad thing???? Why?

[vol_scouter 365]

Democracy and Islam are not compatible since the Koran is a political system as well as a religion. With the current rapid descent into socialism, I do not think that it will require Islam to strip us of more of our freedoms and liberties.

[GernBlansten 10]

I get it.

In order to preserve our freedom of religion, we must first, eliminate it.

[TheScout 10]

Just don't let any more in our country.

[GernBlansten 10]

What about atheists and polytheists? They can't be good for our society either. A religious test for citizenship?

[Mr. Boyce 13]

Look. It's easy to be glib about it, but there really ARE muslim sects that are anti-democratic and would not hesitate to pull the plug on the Last Great Hope of Democracy. . .

 

I'm not at all demonizing the muslims; in fact, I greatly admire the depth of their commitment to their faith. The Great Problem everyone faces, as the world gets smaller and shrinks, is Getting Along Together, and in the case of religious faith, it means tolerance of other faiths. . . including tolerance of other faiths by muslims. So the Question of the 21st Century will be. . . can the muslims do it?

 

With respect to quotas, all nations have them. We're blinkered by the Emma Lazarus poem into believing that a wide open gate is the only way to go. Certainly we would be wrong not to be selective in at least a minimal fashion.

 

BUT my OP point wasn't so much about preserving western democracy. It was just that large families are nice and are rather necessary to our current economic structure.

[Lisabob 13]

"So the Question of the 21st Century will be. . . can the muslims do it? "

 

Actually I think the turn of the conversation on this thread has demonstrated rather clearly that the question might just as well be "can we do it?" People should be careful - their nativism is showing and it isn't pretty.

 

 

 

 

[TheScout 10]

How many of you have heard of the beheading in Orchard Park, NY last week?

[GernBlansten 10]

How many heard about the killing of the ski area manager in Colorado last month because he wasn't Christian.

 

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_11401013

[Merlyn_LeRoy 72]

I've heard of the beheading, TheScout. Ever hear of the Unitarian church shooting in Knoxville?

[GernBlansten 10]

Its interesting to note that the killing in Orchard Park was the result of domestic violence, something that transcends religious identity, but because the couple were Mulsim, it must be their faith that is to blame. Or least to be used as an example to paint all followers of that faith with the same violent tendencies.