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From the frying pan into the fire........

 

If anyone in Greater Alabama expects things to get better with their new SE, they should check in with NE Georgia...... their new SE had a long stretch there before his current Regional spot.....

 

Seems that there was a nice IRS investigation, NEGA seems not to have filed 990's for a few years of his former tenure......

 

Local members there also note that the same SE threw out an Eagle Scout and his mother when they complained about a DE buying beer for underage Camp Counselors... the SE denied that this occurred - the DE was a good Baptist who'd never buy alcohol - but who was arrested for DUI a short time later..... vigorous efforts by dedicated volunteers got the Eagle Scout reinstated - in spite of the SE's objections....

 

And Tom Willis remains out of Scouting after blowing the whistle on fruadulent membership overstatement while the former SE got to retire - he should be doing nicely with his pension....after all he was making $242,000 a year. Why was he allowed to reiter after getting caught faking numbers for the SECOND time in five years? Wasn't BSA getting serious about membership fraud???? lol.......

 

Does BSA fire paid professionals for anything?

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Jkhy, can you tell us about a SE who is doing a good job?

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Edit: Thought better of it. "When you can't say something nice."

 

Vicki

 

(This message has been edited by Vicki)

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Hey Junky:

Why don't you become the new SE. Then we'll really have something to complain about.

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So..... the SE making $242,000 a year gets to retire with benefits after being caught twice grossly faking enrollment numbers... and keep in mind this was the guy blaming the ACLU for missing units and trying to explai away all the "John Does" living at Council offices as being listed this way for "their security" - he couldn't even lie well..... he's being replaced with someone who left a Council in hot water with the IRS.....

 

BOTH threw out people who tried to get them to "do the right thing"........

 

I want to know if ANY professional EVER does anything bad enough to get fired..... and keep in mind that the SE in Atlanta resigned - on his own - actually shocking a few others in taking responsibility for what occurred under his leadership.......

 

When excuses are continually made to excuse not only unethical but illegal behavior on the part of BSA professionals - and there's NEVER any consequences.....something stinks....

 

Most companies FIRE people for far less......

 

and the SE in Grand Teton is still there....... after a half dozen settlements for abuse and more in the courts..... How on earth can BSA allow a professional who MULTIPLE times failed to report abuse as required by BSA rules and state law....

 

BSA claims to teach youth to make ethical and moral decisions..... yet too many of their own paid staff routinely fail to do so - and BSA defends them to the hilt - a corporate CYA mentality that should be completely unacceptable in Scouting.

 

THAT is my point.

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Uh huh...very interesting. Again, are you aware of an SE who's doing a great job?

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You should be ashamed of yourself. The new Scout Executive is a very fine man. You don't know him or his record. What you describe (if true) could easily be an administrative error. This new man in Birmingham is a truly dedicated Scouter.

 

A Scout is . . .

Trustworthy

Loyal

Helpful

Friendly

Courteous

Kind

Obeidient

Cheerful

Thrifty

Brave

Clean

Reverent

 

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jkhny,

 

Just how many Councils are you a member of ??? I have enough challenges trying to serve the Scouts and Scouters in my own District!!!

 

Congratulations. You've joined brianbuf (whoops... he's gone now... or is he?) on my "Ignore this user" list.

 

As Ms Robinson used to say: "You are the Weakest Link! GOODbye!"

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Hey John:

This is an older post.

Jkhny hasn't posted since August Thank goodness.

Keeping my fingers crossed that he doesn't show back up.

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jkhny writes:

 

Most companies FIRE people for far less......

 

The difference between the BSA and "most companies" is that most companies are subject to the corrective forces of the marketplace.

 

If you want to change Scouting then work toward establishing alternatives to the BSA.

 

Kudu

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