campcrafter 10 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 Why Fred do you find it necessary to post news stories that instigate discord among forum members. You post without comment and don't join in the fray. Do you just enjoy watching other people argue? I don't think you are providing any service to the forum posting these articles since they can be gotten from numerous sources for anyone interested in finding them. Is it just me or do others feels this way? What is your motive Fred? YIS, CC Link to post Share on other sites
OldGreyEagle 5 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 Actually I asked Fred the same question when he first started posting here and I paraphase Heather #1 when I say, "because he can". His posting on Oliver North almost caused a love-in the likes of which I havent seen since the mid-60s Link to post Share on other sites
GernBlansten 10 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 I commend Fred for bringing to this forum news articles that pertain to scouting, whether pro-BSA or anti-BSA. Sure, I would like him to give a little personal perspective, but if all he wants to do is stir up some sediment and see what brews up, that's fine with me. Link to post Share on other sites
fgoodwin 23 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 campcrafter (and others), you ask a fair question, and you deserve an answer. First of all, while its true that I post here "bacause I can", there's more to it than that. Its worth remembering that I post potentially controversial issues in the "Issues and Politics" folder, and that those who aren't interested in discussing those issues certainly don't have to -- nobody is forced to read anything I post. In fact, if anyone finds what I post noxious enough, they can set me to "ignore" then set my threads to "Squelch". But more to the point, I think its worth seeing how the media covers BSA and to see how others view BSA. Last sumemr, I posted several articles that were "anti-BSA", to put it mildly, and I was roundly criticized for that. I've also posted many articles that are pro-BSA, and I've been questioned about that. So, while my postings are not exactly 50-50, I think it can be fairly said that I do post articles on both sides. As to why I post without comment, I've also answered that before, but you may not have seen my response. That's a common complaint I get, but my response is simple: I prefer that people engage the articles on the merits of the articles. If I post commentary, people want to debate me, or show me why I'm either right or wrong. I'd much rather people focus on the merits of the article and debate the article, rather than my position on any particular article. I apologize if I've done anything to cause you or anyone else distress. Link to post Share on other sites
Trevorum 24 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 Ron, I know Fred and he's good folks. I think of him as our own 'Fredbot', going out onto the web and bringing us stories of mutual interest to discuss, lambast, or just read. He also has said that he posts here on Scouter.com so that the stories will be archived - they often disappear from the original news websites after going stale. However, maybe Terry should create a new forum (fredforum?) for these stories ... Link to post Share on other sites
Hunt 11 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 I think it's a great service--I, for one, want to know about these articles, and often they are something that we want to discuss here. Link to post Share on other sites
SemperParatus 1 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 Except for a few articles termed as 'satire' dealing with the Jambo deaths, I find most of Fred's news postings to be worthwhile for a quick read. Since I am too lazy to go out looking for Scouting news, I for one am happy to have Fred do the work for me. Link to post Share on other sites
campcrafter 10 Posted May 30, 2006 Author Share Posted May 30, 2006 Fred, Thanks for the explanantion. No distress just curious. And all who find it of value for debate, thanks for your responses. I defer to the forum. And by the way Fred you get 1 credit toward sainthood for performing a miracle - you got Ed and Merlyn to agree on something! Post on! YIS, ron(This message has been edited by campcrafter) Link to post Share on other sites
scoutldr 726 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 Ditto, ditto, ditto. Fred is just passing on BSA news articles. Don't shoot the messenger! Link to post Share on other sites
Fuzzy Bear 12 Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 Fred is free. Link to post Share on other sites
Vicki 11 Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 Fredbot. I like that one. I kinda like the news service, even when I can't get my mind around how the author of the article could possibly think that way: Link to post Share on other sites
SSScout 1615 Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 "All I know is just what I read in the papers, and that's an alibi for my ignorance." = Will Rogers = Give me more ignorance, F. YiS Link to post Share on other sites
CA_Scouter 11 Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 ALL media is Entertainment! Link to post Share on other sites
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