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Frankly FCFY is not much of a stretch for most boys if the program is being provided for them. If they have to hunt it up for themselves it's very much harder. Regarding Patrol leaders my boy was "elected" PL at 10 on the basis that his new boy patrol all wanted to do it and they ended up with "one potato, two potato" . Eventually over the last few years most of them have gotten a chance to be either PL or APL. They are all happily easy going. One time they even elected a boy that never came. Found out the hard way that that didn't work. Such great learning experiences.

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