Exibar 10 Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 ok, I have a scout that will be making Life. I see the requirement for Eagle is "21 merit badges (10 more than you already have)". is that 21 badges total or 10 more badges that he already has after making Life? I know there are eagle require badges, but I'm hung up on the "10 more than you already have" piece. thanks all! Mike B Link to post Share on other sites
Lisabob 13 Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Minimum of 21 total, including the Eagle-required ones. The books specify "ten more than you already have" because the boys are required to have a specific minimum number (including a certain minimum number of Eagle-required) of badges in order to earn Star, and again at Life. So the "ten more..." is based on those prior minimums. It does *not* mean that a Life scout with, say, 50 badges including all his Eagle-required badges, would then need to have a total of 60 to earn Eagle. Hope this helps Link to post Share on other sites
Beavah 205 Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Yah, that "ten more than you already have" bit is another poor wording job, eh? Even if the lad previously had the minimums for Star and Life, he might still need more than 10 badges to make Eagle (if he used Swimming and Hiking as separate required badges for Star and Life, for example). Just focus on the 21, Exibar, and the required ones within that. Ignore the "ten more" parenthetical. That's the right way to interpret how it's really handled. Beavah Link to post Share on other sites
AlFansome 10 Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Better yet, check out the Eagle Scout application at http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/512-728_web.pdf If the young man can fill all the spaces on "Requirement 3" appropriately, then the merit badge requirement has been satisfied regardless of in which order or for what rank the badges have been used before. Link to post Share on other sites
evmori 11 Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Yes he has to be able to fill in all the spots but the dates MUST match up with his rank advancement! Link to post Share on other sites
Exibar 10 Posted March 9, 2010 Author Share Posted March 9, 2010 Excellent, thank you for all the replies. Here's another Eagle related question. If the boy chooses "lifesaving" for his rank, and he has also earned Emergency Preparedness, can he use EP as one of the elective badges? My first thought is no, as the requirement says one or the other, but I figured I'd pass it by you guys as well. thanks! Mike B Link to post Share on other sites
Lisabob 13 Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Yes, the alternate can be used as an elective. I don't have ready access to the book at the moment but I am 99% certain that all of this is spelled out in the boy scout handbook where it talks about merit badges. Do you have a copy of the book? If not, it would probably be a good investment. Link to post Share on other sites
Beavah 205 Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Yah, if a lad earns both Lifesaving and Emergency Preparedness then: 1) He can use both as "required" merit badges for Star and/or Life rank. 2) He can use one as the "required" MB for Eagle rank, and the other as an elective. The book yeh want is the "Boy Scout Requirements" book, which is available from your scout shop. Its content is also online at National's site. Link to post Share on other sites
AlFansome 10 Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Regarding Lifesaving and Emergency Preparedness... From the Eagle Application, requirement 3: *6 EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS OR LIFESAVING *Cross out badges not earned. If a crossed-out badge was earned, it may be reentered in 13 through 21. Same thing goes for "*9 CYCLING OR HIKING OR SWIMMING", where one is required for Eagle, and the other two can be used as electives (if earned). Link to post Share on other sites
Exibar 10 Posted March 9, 2010 Author Share Posted March 9, 2010 Thank you all again! We couldn't find the clarification in the book last night, so I wanted to ask the experts :-) Mike B Link to post Share on other sites
Stosh 3452 Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 The experts? I don't know if we can handle the pressure that implies. Stosh Link to post Share on other sites
Brian85 10 Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Those were good questions with great answers. I love the forum. Link to post Share on other sites
Exibar 10 Posted March 11, 2010 Author Share Posted March 11, 2010 I agree, this forum is great and filled with great folks! As a new Scoutmaster coming up from being CubMaster, I know I have a lot of questions and it's great to be able ask them here and find out how other troops operate so I can help my troop be the best we can make it :-) thanks all! Mike b Link to post Share on other sites
Lisabob 13 Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 I love this forum too. I think I can honestly say I either learn something new or else that I re-evaluate something I think I "know" about the program on a weekly basis, as a result of the many thoughtful people here. Thanks, all! Link to post Share on other sites
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