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I see that the FAQs still has the incorrect statement that Dodgeball has never been an approved activity. I wonder how much longer it will take to correct that? Any idea @RichardB ?
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Something has to fill the vacuum since Risk Management removed dodgeball from the program! By the way, the next time someone tosses out "OK, Boomer", just reply "That'll be Civil Rights Generation to you, post-modern nomad."
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BSA’s new Background Check Authorization Form
mds3d replied to Jameson76's topic in Open Discussion - Program
Why would removing that clause give anyone time to review the background check? The BSA isn't under any obligation to reveal what they find as far as I am aware. They would be more likely to just say "no" and move on. Once I had a volunteer rejected by national with no answer. Everyone around him was shocked but he didn't really seem as surprised as I thought. A couple years later I found out what probably showed up and I wasn't surprised national responded as they did. Background checks are there to identify people we think are good but have something hidden in their past. These -
BSA’s new Background Check Authorization Form
Eagle94-A1 replied to Jameson76's topic in Open Discussion - Program
Do you really trust National? I have been told a lot of things that National would not do over the years, only to see them change policy and do it. And National does not have a history of being Trustworthy. Look at the "Prohibited Activities FAQ" found here: https://www.scouting.org/health-and-safety/prohibited-activities-faqs/ . One Questions is "Q. Why can we no longer play dodgeball? A. Dodgeball has never been an authorized activity in Scouting....." Even after pointing out this error to National by showing them a Scouting.org link it saying it is an approved game and asking them t -
Yes, Eagle, but those BSA fundraisers you cited are for ADULTS, not the scouts. Dodgeball is simply much too fun for children.
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I guess dodgeball is an official fundraiser now. https://www.summitbsa.org/dodging-for-adventure/ https://www.samhoustonbsa.org/dodgeball https://michiganscouting.org/dodgebrawlgr/ Dodgeball has never been an approved activity in Scouting., RRRRRIIIIIIIIGGGGGHHHHHHHTTTTTTTTTTTTTT.
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Glad they took it down. Just wish they would correct the inaccurate statement that "Dodgeball has never been an authorized activity in Scouting. " A Scout is TRUSTWORTHY.
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Well, now that dodgeball moved from ideal opening activity to pariah sport, let's have a gues at which "throwing TO sport" will be stricken from the record next year. Let's be clear, again, the BSA is not concerned about the potential abuse that could occur in your home as a result of needing a house guest in order for you to comply with YPT. It is concerned that it will be held liable decades from now for should you, your spouse, your son, or your daughter turn out to be predatory. Should that happen, they want to be able to say, "We told them so, go sue their church, school, or other ci
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so. after reviewing the new updates. in particular sarcasm in effect. Prohibited Activities (Effective 10-1-2019) 14 .Activities where participants shoot or throw objects at each other, such as rock-throwing, paintball, laser or archery tag, sock fights, or dodgeball. I must now also prohibit ultimate Frisbee,baseball and other similar activity's. oh and no more water polo or volley ball 9.Extreme or action sports and associated activities that involve an unusually high degree of risk and often involve speed, height, a high level of exertion, and specialized gear
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Moderator Note As @Beavah reminded us often, BSA is not known for its consistency in products. Noted: The prohibition on dodgeball by youth members is inconsistent with what several councils, not to mention other parts of the scouting dot org domain, say and do. lets move along...
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Could you remove the inaccurate statement that " Dodgeball has never been an authorized activity in Scouting." from the FAQ please? After all it was an approved game in 1989's Woods Wisdom book as shown here http://www.magnificentsevens.org/docs/Resources/Planning/WoodsWisdom.pdf as well as the Troop Program Resources found here https://troop577wichita.weebly.com/uploads/1/1/2/2/11225514/woods_wisdom_troop_program.pdf AND is currencly listed as an approved game on BSA's own website https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/Games.pdf A Scout is T
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I didn't know it was prohibited either, especially since it is listed inthe Troop Program Resources Book found here https://troop577wichita.weebly.com/uploads/1/1/2/2/11225514/woods_wisdom_troop_program.pdf I guess these fundraisers are no more. https://www.samhoustonbsa.org/dodgeball https://www.danbeard.org/pln-dodgeball-challenge/ https://michiganscouting.org/dodgeball/ https://www.scnow.com/news/local/article_0162e6ba-d563-5e4b-8398-461c21842a13.html
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Thanks @RichardB, but the FAQ is disingenuous at best. It would have been more honest to say that, as recently as 2012, BSA publications presented dodgeball as an activity to look upon with admiration. (See https://headsup.boyslife.org/epic-dodgeball-game/ "Check Out This Epic Dodgeball Game" where Boy's Life writers proclaim, "Students at the University of California, Irvine recently participated in the world-record “Largest Dodgeball Game,” as 6,084 students launched little red balls at one another. Sounds like a blast!".)
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Didn't know dodgeball was prohibited. I'll add this to my list of things we thumb our nose at.
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All scouting is local and it difficult to know whats best in this situation. Allowing the PLC to make every decision can be a little difficult. If the PLC decides elections should be every 3 years, every month etc there mayy be more chaos than usual. In the OPs case I think its good he made changes based on others past experience and now should meet with the PLC to help them understand and to listen to any objections they have to the length of terms. My first week as SM the PLC voted to not wear uniforms (ever), changed the day we met and to only play dodgeball during our weekly meetings
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I was unfamiliar with Gaga Ball - it looks like a safer version of dodgeball to me - foam balls, no throwing, target is below the knees. What I'm reading is that the Scouts playing Gaga Ball are having a lot of fun with it (even if it is a safer version of Dodgeball). I'm surprised no one has complained that the BSA is taking all the fun out of dodgeball by doing Gaga Ball instead. -
This was exactly my experience in HS when Physical Education went co-ed. Dodgeball, gym hockey, wrestling all disappeared from the curriculum. Flag football went from a contact game to being kicked out of class if you bumped into a girl. Boys weren't allowed to block shots in basketball or hit spikes in volleyball if the person on the other side was a girl. Again, kicked out of class for the day. They added square dancing for the love of Pete! -
You definitely have to drive the adventure and fun, but you (WE) as leaders have got to set the direction and make the adventure happen. These are some of the things we have done last 12 months We do a Lock-in, which is basically 14 hours total, and in that is 3 to 4 hours of dodgeball and 2 hours of Nerf wars. Yeah yeah, no scouts as targets, we may have missed that paragraph in G2SS We do a Capture the Flag, where you tear a ribbon off the opposing players arm to capture them, during this we are literally one boulder crushing away from Lord of the Flies We do an aquatics
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NOOO...Not water pistols!!! Oh the humanity. Next you will tell me they may have engaged in things like water balloon fights, noodle wars at the pools, or even "shudder" dodgeball. Rumor has it some unit actually had (hope you are sitting down) cubs that picked up sticks and ran around pointing them at each other going "bang" "bang". Luckily they were put into intense therapy to curb such foolishness.
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Eliminate merit badges, advancement from Scouting
SSF replied to gblotter's topic in Advancement Resources
I was talking to a friend recently who got as far as Star and even though he loved being in scouts he lamented how much he regretted not making a greater effort to go after Eagle. Not to be facetious...but seriously, what would scouting be without advancement...a group of boys just hanging out, occasionally going camping, hiking, fishing, etc., playing dodgeball...where and when would they learn first aid, ecology, pioneering, orienteering, swimming, civics, lifesaving, emergency preparedness, develop personal fitness, healthy family dynamics...the list goes on There are actually sco -
I think sometimes what gets lost in the discussion is tangibles vs. intangibles. So lived experience, I was a child of the 70s. My Jr. year in HS our PhysEd classes went co-ed. Everybody said, nothing is going to change, girls can do whatever boys do, it'll be fine. But guess what, things changed. Our flag football experience when from a semi-contact sport to a completely non-contact sport. In fact, contact with girls was a special penalty. We quit playing things like gym hockey and dodgeball and any other activity where strength was a factor. We were forced to endure square dancing
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New article online - Too much Safety limits program
TAHAWK replied to skeptic's topic in Issues & Politics
Edit hours later. Thank you for more information. >Paint Ball is a pretty expensive activity. Who was going to pay? Some camps will only charge $50/day per participant, gear and ammo supplied. Were the parent going to be OK with the bruises that commonly result despite good protective gear? How did Scouting grow to include 2/3 of all boys without Paint Ball? >Water Tubing is expressly allowed. Who was your G2SS subject matter expert? >Four wheeling? How was that going to work? Does the Troop have its own vehicles? Loaners? Insurance? Expert supervision? (We had a -
New article online - Too much Safety limits program
Jameson76 replied to skeptic's topic in Issues & Politics
Candidly not sure we follow 100% of these, but many are allowed in some form Paintball - Yep have to use targets to be compliant Laser Tag - Yep have to use targets to be compliant Water guns - Not specifically mentioned by name Water Tubing - Tubing is allowed with PFD's Four wheeling - As part of council program to be compliant Personal Water Craft - Yep Towed Para Sailing - Yep Hot Air Balloon rides - Yep unless tethered Dodgeball ( i still argue this it's different that using paint/laser guns) - Well not mentioned by name so...... Introductory Karate Class with qualified instr -
New article online - Too much Safety limits program
HelpfulTracks replied to skeptic's topic in Issues & Politics
Sure: Paintball Laser Tag Water guns Water Tubing Four wheeling Personal Water Craft Towed Para Sailing Hot Air Balloon rides Dodgeball ( i still argue this it's different that using paint/laser guns) Introductory Karate Class with qualified instructors Certain pioneering projects Those are some of the items I can remember that have been suggested by our Scouts that they have done on other youth organizations, but did not meet G2SC requirements. Mind you I do not disagree that some of them should be excluded but some of the others I think are a bit over zealous. -
I almost mentioned dodgeball, but was posting during a meeting and had to cut it short. Dodgeball should be a required rite of passage - right up there with learning to swim and ride a bike.
