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  1. So here is a question on a possible loophole. If a new scout joins BSA before 1 Aug, do they skip the $25 one-time registration fee. If so, I can see a big push to save money and sign up early.
  2. Since it was brought up, our council's jamboree cost for next year is $2300+. That's for one scout. Crazy since the jamboree event alone is about $1100. I don't see a lot of High Adventure or Jamborees in my future. Since I've been to Philmont 3X and a Natl Jambo once. I have to just shake my head.
  3. Having read the article, I really liked how the prices of the different HA bases were more affordable. Imagine Philmont costing $60. Boy have things changed. I saw a 2021 Jamboree price at a council near Summit being $1500.
  4. Also a fun thing to watch newbies blow up any air mattress and place it on the cold ground. As it deflates with cooling temps, they always think it has a leak. This was most fun when the scouts camped on an indoor ice rink. You should have seen the adults mad at the sinking feeling.
  5. Zoom and WEBEX in my campsite. Duo is also a medium.
  6. Off subject, but the microwave incident has me brought to my Tiger granddaughter two months ago. She took a compass out, held it flat, and spoke into it "show me North". It was too funny to see. You gotta love the newest generation.
  7. I've worn military type jungle boots in most activities. They survive Philmont and parts of the Appalachian trail. Survived the Adironacks too. Must have the panama sole and will dry quickly. I was used to them, but I also spent years wearing them every day.
  8. This does tie in with another thread, but this is not an order. The best thing to do to keep your regalia is to contact a local native American tribe or representative. I understand the intent is to honor those local tribes by using their regalia-type items. The best time to find help is a local powwow and have their buy in. I'm still loyal to the order to keep the arrow, heck the sash has it, and hopefully we don't lose that too. There are times to call our the Lodge and the LEC to make it as impressive as ever before. Wearing black pajamas and a necklace will give it a cult-like lo
  9. Removing the regalia will be the start of "Order of the Tablet". I've never seen any OA program with or without regalia ever disrespect our native heritage. This would also do away with the Tribe of Mic-o-say? Just try to take someone's beads. If there is anything preserving the native heritage, the OA is one of the most visible besides sports teams. If someone doesn't like the regalia, powwow, or theme, there are other organizations to join. So for those on the "remove" line, do we also change WWW or do away with Leni Lenape and the OA legend? Where does it stop unless we change t
  10. Although no time limit on the MB, I can't imagine these long periods over a year, heck a scout could advance a few ranks in a 2 year period. I've seen eagle projects pushed this long and raise a lot of eyebrows on the scout's commitment to the project. Wood Badge tickets have a shorter time limit. A SM conference can be held anytime in addition to the mandated one for rank, I hope this would be a topic of discussion. I bet the original blue card is worn and tattered after. I'm allergic to lengthy partial MB completion, makes me itch. I like scouts to start, focus, and finish their select
  11. A lot of heated discussion on this. Keeping it short...the troops should operate independently. Give each an identity and let it run. I'm sure each troop had a separate recharter packet, so they are linked by the same chartered org and/or committee? Please don't put out the cub program and BSA Scouts program have the same boy/girl rules. Cub rules are lighter.
  12. Since this has been in the works for quite a while. Without splitting hairs, you would think the MB counselor would compare the old and new requirements and simply give credit towards the new requirements already met from the old ones. Any new/revised requirements would be simply added on to any already met ones. I have to say most MB counselors are pretty savvy about this and keep track. At the time of the completed MB, all parties are stating the scout met the requirements at the time of the completion. Hard to understand how a MB was kept working for 2 years, seems all parties nee
  13. I tend to lean on the slides and not the end knot. The loose ends from a slide have lesser chance to get caught than the large loop necker. Most playgrounds prohibit hoodies with hood strings like the knotted necker. I do think it looks sloppy and will spin around with any outdoor activity. As a scouter lived in 5 countries, all wore slides, with a woggle as more universal. Hope the loose knotted necker is just a short trend.
  14. I won't get too long on the keyboard, I'm not in favor of NSP. I like to disperse new scouts to established patrols to learn from the more experienced scouts. It breaks up old groups, makes everyone integrate/join any new scout, lets them progress as an individual, and many like the new environment. Like-age/grade groups may be good for cubs, but many have already spent years together. Let them learn from an established patrol and trained youth leaders.
  15. I hate to say this to those with a bad experience, but that monthly district committee meeting can be most useful and needed. Our district commissioners have their meeting the hour prior to the committee meeting, so we knock out both meetings on the same day of the month. It is not the place for roundtable or a council meeting, that is mentioned above. The district committee meeting is for district business and not a whole lot of just talk. Like any meeting in scouts, there should be a meeting plan and stick to it. With over 15 people on our committee serving 40 units, our meeting stays o
  16. Not on the topic, but had to smile when I saw the Jefferson-Lewis and Seaway council patches. As an old Lowville pack and troop member back in the 90s. I spent a few days back and forth with US/Canada camporees. I had a love for Camp Portaferry and that was sold too. Good memories in the patches on that flag. Fly it and display it until it is threads.
  17. I would say yes on these as a hiking activity. If the scout doesn't complete the MB, they were still conducted under the auspices of the BSA. After the first couple of hikes some scouts may drop out, but the experience remains. Record it. This made me think about wheel-chair bound scouts and how they would earn the hiking MB. I would say if they "rolled" (not under electric power) the entire hikes, they meet the intent of the badge. I would challenge any "nay-sayer" to try a wheel-chair hike the normal distance for the MB.
  18. As an owner of the red and OD jackets, I have to add the OD were around from 2003-2009. This tends to be my activity jacket more than anything else. I'm still not a fan of the printed BSA logo on the pocket. My red one is more of a non-outing garment. My Philmont bull is on the red along with the pre-MGM OA patch. I just leave the OD one as it came. They are ok for most temperate areas, but when cold weather (under 35ish degrees), the practical layering comes into play. Also, when temps are above 65, time to stash them.
  19. I've had units set up a hotwheel track and a bucket of cars to race for siblings that always wanted to be involved. This track keeps them from being around the real track, messing with derby cars, and helps with boredom. The loops and turns always seem to keep the pre-lions and lions busy.
  20. Like qwazse says above, in my adventures in world scouting in 4 countries, slides are just as common and worn close to the neck. The loose friendship know seems like a popular jamboree thing lately. I even saw a scouter last weekend wearing two world jamboree neckerchiefs, British and US versions. Either way, I'm glad to see the neckerchief back in any style. I just tend to like it neat and orderly around town and scuffed up in the field.
  21. The 2019 Guide to Awards and insignia version (page 13) says: "when engaged in scouting activities, members may wear the neckerchief with appropriate nonuniform clothing to identify them as scouts". So, looks like the we will see more worn like those world jamboree photos.
  22. The 2019 world jamboree really got some BSA folks spun up. Most participants wore t-shirts with a neckerchief tied at the bottom, loose fitting without a slide. BSA frowns on wearing the neckerchief with anything except the field uniform (class A if you will). Maybe we will just go with this as an infraction. I'm one that leans on having a neckerchief available for its many uses as well as a scout staff/stave. The only thing I would have to mention is wood badgers should not wear their neckerchief as this manner. They have beads approved but look goofy with a T-shirt. May be double
  23. This is going to get a lot of comments, I'm sure. I will try to be brief. Not writing off the special needs folks, but there may be some units nearby that may be a special needs troop that is prepared, trained, and ready to assist these scouts. There are also a couple of options you have if you keep them in the troop. You can have a senior scout or assistant SM assist each of the special scouts as a mentor or troop guide. I wouldn't be too quick to restructure the two patrols as it only compound the issue and scouts blame it on the special scouts. I've seen troops have a "challenge
  24. Academy sports has good versions for $25. Nylon, zip off legs and comes in scouted green.
  25. National doesn't choose numbers, that is on the unit. May need the lowest level to ponder this question.
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