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David CO

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    Searching backpacks and tents

    That was my first thought. But vaping is another possibility.
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    Who carries a firearm on Scout Outings???

    BSA should really get with the times. Aside from the uniformed police officer, we have 4 other people at our public middle school who carry concealed weapons for the protection of the students. The uniformed officer knows who they are. So does the administration and the school board. Nobody else needs to know. By the way, I'm not one of them. I'm a klutz. I would probably blow my fool head off.
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    Searching backpacks and tents

    They conducted a search and found absolutely nothing? That must have made them look pretty foolish.
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    Policy on going through scout totes

    True. But you might also recall that I was an elected school board member for my communities public grade schools and middle school. That was very much a governmental thing. I agree that public schools and parochial schools are not the same.
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    Policy on going through scout totes

    I hope you appreciate the fact that I am showing great restraint by not replying to the posts of those who are claiming to understand the law regarding school searches. It's not easy. It really isn't.
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    Faith and Chaplaincy Issues

    All we need now is a rubber chicken. Or does the dining hall already have that in abundant supply?
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    Searching backpacks and tents

    Yeah, but that thread is dying out. @Scoutmomonly presented us with a scenario in which the SM and the ASM acted on their own. @mab0221 seems to be asking a question about a SM and ASM who are seeking prior approval to conduct an inspection/search of the tents and backpacks. Do I understand this correctly?
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    Troops Chartered by Churches

    Good answer.
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    Bear encounters UT, AZ

    Unfortunately, There have been a lot of movies and TV shows about kids befriending wild animals. Flipper, Gentle Ben, Free Willy, etc.. They never take the POV that it is a very bad idea to do so. This causes some people to go out into natural environments not understanding the difference between fiction and reality.
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    Troops Chartered by Churches

    Welcome to the forum. I'm Catholic. We don't have an annual Congregational Meeting. So please forgive me if I don't completely understand how you do things. My feeling is that your Boy Scout troop should follow the same procedures that are customarily followed for all of the other programs and activities at your Church. If all of the other programs submit a budget for approval at the Congregational Meeting, then your troop should do so too. I am reluctant to comment on whether or not your Church treats people like children, since we customarily refer to our clergy as "father".
  11. That's it! Stop blaming the girl. Blame Canada!
  12. Would you happen to know if it is a common practice for Canada? Or were the Canadian scouts just trying to mess with us?
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    Policy on going through scout totes

    There is a disagreement. I'm not sure that there was a mistake. It doesn't do any good to insist that someone admit to a mistake when not everyone agrees that a mistake was made. Better to call it a disagreement. When you talk with the boys, you should help them to understand that opinions may differ on this question. Practices vary from place to place and person to person. This might help turn this into a conversation rather than an accusation.
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    Policy on going through scout totes

    I would agree with you here if the OP hadn't specifically asked about policy in her opening sentence. I think we are simply responding to her question.
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    Policy on going through scout totes

    I am surprised at the number of people who are shocked at the idea that a scout leader might see their son's underwear. I grew up in the days when many people still dried their laundry outdoors on a clothes line. We would have laughed at the idea of a boy being embarrassed about a scout leader seeing his underwear.
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    Policy on going through scout totes

    This is where I disagree. It should be the Chartered Organization's policy that prevails in this situation. If the CO is a church or school that regularly searches the luggage before an overnight trip, then it should be the same with the Boy Scout troop. If the CO doesn't conduct searches, then they shouldn't search the Boy Scouts either.
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    Protect Yourself Rules - New Training

    I agree. My concern isn't with a child attending one event like this. It is having the child exposed to multiple events like this. I really don't want a kid to go through this every time he signs up for an activity at school, church, scouts, park district, YMCA, little league, etc..
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    Extreme Anxiety at Summer Camp

    How is he doing?
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    Policy on going through scout totes

    Isn't that a little extreme?
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    Policy on going through scout totes

    A perfectly reasonable precaution. I think many people would feel that searching the bags is a perfectly reasonable precaution.
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    Policy on going through scout totes

    "Trust, but verify." RR
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    Policy on going through scout totes

    I was a teacher in the 80's. I am less concerned about how these "trust" issues are changing the relationships between the Scoutmaster and the Scouts than I am with how they are changing the relationships between Scouts and other Scouts. This new tenting policy has me bewildered. A Scout is Trustworthy, but you can't sleep in the same tent together.
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    Policy on going through scout totes

    85% of the students at my school have never received an office referral. It is the other 15% who cause all the trouble. Most of my students aren't worried about the teachers or the administrators. They are worried about being targeted by the 15%. They want us to have the tools in place to deal with the troublemakers. Once it is explained to students that these searches are a necessary tool in our efforts to protect them and keep them safe, most students are appreciative and cooperative. The other 15% object constantly.
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    Policy on going through scout totes

    I don't think so. One of the reasons we do routine locker inspections at school is so students cannot claim that they have an expectation of privacy. This way, if and when a serious concern arises, the students cannot challenge a search. They have no expectation of privacy. We are not saying, "We don't trust you." We are saying, "We do not want to establish an expectation of privacy." It is exactly the same with overnight trips (including scouts, sports, and band). We do not want to have any policy, practice, or procedure that would legally establish an expectation of privacy.
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