concscouter

Personally, I like it. Our committee took one look at it and said 'why wait', we aren't making it a requirement ahead of time but we decided to go ahead and start teaching it now (in cubs).

I love a happy ending... I have posted on and off about some problems I had with a couple of units. I got some good advise, and I got questioned and was doubting what I was doing too, because really, 2 chartered orgs? Yeah, it was a little nuts... well, I said if it happened again I was done, it was me and my wife and our leaders/parents at the root and something was wrong with us. One person said something along the lines of 'maybe you should take a break, do you really think it isn't you?'... yeah, I wasn't sure... Recap - Son was ready to quit, I started a new troop with some boys

BTW, that was a sincere thank you to everybody. And yeah, if anything else happens I will definately be walking away. But with what is coming next, I doubt that will happen. I think with everything it will be able to be worked out. At least I hope so, I've dealt with enough. I never mentioned this was a troubled unit to start with... hopefully now they are getting the help they need to deliver the program.

Okay. 1 pack for starting a new troop, 1 pack for making the phonecall about a boy being dehydrated and needing to go home. No troops chartered org in second unit is part of the pack (like dual roles in the top 5 positions) 3 leaders removed in the past 4 months by them.(This message has been edited by concscouter)

It's been a long time since I posted. We started the new troop, and noticed some 'quirkiness' with our new chartered org. It went downhill from there. Talk about out of the frying pan and into the fire. I tried to hold things together... but I was playing by a different set of rules... see... I don't lie to make myself look good and others look bed. Others, even in scouts, don't have that issue. What I completely don't understand is the power trip some people get in being the top dog in the volunteer side of the organization. Since we came over they have now fired 3 l

hmm... my post died... Anyway... we have engaged the new scouts and told them the program is theirs, we have explained the proper roles of the adults, as a guide, not a leader, the boys are responsible for their program, and our job is to make sure they don't fail and flail, but learning from mistakes is perfectly okay (within the realms of reason and safety of course). The boys have made decisions like neckerchiefs so far, and the SPL has started to design the program, he wants two months of cooking followed by a month of first aid to start with (I joking said, are you sure you don't wa

@eagle92 - you got it right on the money. It doesn't serve the entire district, just half of it. Wow, not only did I contact district, but so did several other units. For one day, the entire district turned upside down. I am on good terms with the old CO, and several other issues are being looked into. I don't know what is going to happen to the old pack, but I think we left them with just a few boys (I can't help it if the boys follow me). But, this all stems from the troop being mad that I might take all the boys, and their spitefulness (you hit it right on eagle92) and instead, th

That's the plan!

This has been resolved, thank god. Why couldn't we do it? Because the first derby is a week from now, no time to order the parts.

No, that won't work... we run a bunch of derbies for other units, some numbering 80+ boys. But thank you...

If you read the rest of my post you'll the story, but the new pack leadership is leaving half the district high and dry. Is there anybody near STL that has a track with timer that can be loaned to another for 3 months. Yeah, I know it sounds crazy, but I am serious. The first derby is friday. Please somebody, HELP!

Well, not a happy ending... they just kinda said they cannot commit to the 28 derbies we had setup for fundraising. They took the equipment sunday, and then let the other packs known last night... mind you, first derby is Friday. OMG, this is insane. District is involved, chartering organization is involved. 1000+ cubscouts let down. I can't get a track till mid-feb. Anybody near STL that can loan me a track and timer for three months?

Wow, not really new to scouting but new here. I have asked a few opinions and really valued the advice that I have been given. I have been in scouting for 6 years now, and have seen some amazing stuff from the scouts, and some really insane stuff from the parents. We started in one pack, and ended up leaving that pack because it didn't work for my son. We moved to another and it fit us much better. But, when my son graduated to boy scouts out of cubbies, we ran into the problems of sexism and scouters that have been in the program for so long they have lost sight of the goals and methods a

Well, follow up... all I can say is OMG! The CoR refused to return phonecalls. We started the new troop, the CoR got wind from the scoutmaster and went BALLISTIC. They waited for us to recharter the pack (needing me to charter as the trained cubmaster), then after that called me the day after Christmas and fired me. I sent a letter to all the parents... I was fired for a conflict of interest, my wife was fired for being married to me, and if she was a committee member even the committee couldn't say things (slander me) around her. My younger son should also find a new pack. They will tak

one thought, you might find out when your district roundtables are. If your just calling CMs blind you are not going to have any idea who you are dealing with, and everybody thinks their way is the right way. At the roundtables you will meet seasoned scouters who have roots in the local packs and can really point you in the right directions... you'll all meet CMs and know they are involved, because they are at the roundtable. That is really the sniff test... if they are attending training they are trying to do the right thing. Also, you might find out who is coordinating special needs pack

Would you believe that I was told NOT to do any skills with him at all? Last troop meeting I brought up that something was signed off that wasn't done... Then he was asked when he would be ready for his board of review. I have gone back over everything with him, to make sure he has what he needs to succeed, because he hasn't gotten that where he was. Actually, it wasn't our idea to do the new troop... District asked us to. There are plenty in the area, but as I look at it... I only have one chance to fix this for my son, after this experience he has lost faith in scouts, and so I have aske

@platypus Thank you for your comments, they dissolved the new boy patrol(and is not first class so cannot run a regular patrol). so he is no longer a PL. Adults who stand up are told to shut up or get out, and the spl (the new one) is never there... Nor was the old one. Yes, I have other parents among the leadership, but the ones who are not trained think this is how things should be run... Again, thank you, those avenues have been exhausted though.

No, not holding a grudge... The five year ago thing was I questioned moving for so long. These events are the last 9 months. My son is fed up with failing.

Yes, it was a BSA ropes course on council property, instructors were certified

Okay, this will be a long one. Understand I am going to outline everything, and eveything I have found wrong I have addressed in committee, and the responses I have gotten are 'it ain't broke we aren't going to fix it' ... and the like. 5 years ago, we started with one pack, my son got his bobcat, but they failed to recognize him or give him his patch over the course of 3 pack meetings. Finally the patch was given to me at Scouting for food to give to him, and he was never formally recognized. We switched packs (the second time he was passed over he was in tears). The pack we moved