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  1. I have been told in this forum that there is merit badge counselor training that is required. Tonight I went down to the district training and told them I wanted to take the merit badge counselor training. The guy over training himself told me there was no such thing as merit badge counselor training- since merit badge counselors should be experts on their subjects. (Gotta laugh at that, since I know the scout leader made himself merit badge counselor of several eagle required badges, simply because that was easier than finding a counselor.) I told him I wanted to be trained in the counseling aspect, not the badge subject matter and that I'd heard there was merit badge counseling. He then told me that if there was such a thing, it would be offered next training. Is there any such thing as merit badge counselor training? Is there some link, showing there is such a thing?
  2. The LDS church has officially decided to continue with Boy Scouts. http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/church-to-go-forward-with-scouting-program?cid=social_20150826_51467126&adbid=10153389426257013&adbpl=fb&adbpr=53305042012
  3. christineka

    So now I'm a Merit Badge Counselor

    Congrats! How in the world did they do a merit badge counselor training? Is there some set curriculum or something? I went to a training meeting, asked for merit badge counselor training and they insisted there was no such thing. The only boy I've ever counseled is my own. I keep trying to tell people I'm a counselor for various badges, but no one ever asks me
  4. I'm trying to get my son to take care of communication that is appropriate for him. When he finishes a merit badge requirement, I have him contact the merit badge counselor. (Totally reasonable, I think.) We've found out that the community troop isn't going to work with our schedule. He wants to go camping more often with boy scouts, however. Should I have him contact the various boy scout troops in the area to ask if he can go on campouts with them? Or is that the sort of thing I, as parent should do? On the one hand, it's an odd request, on the other, he's the one that wants to earn the camping merit badge.
  5. It seems that yet again, I've instigated opening a can of worms. There will now be discussions with higher up leadership to see if the boy scout troops can combine, so that ours can go camping on a monthly basis. I, honestly do not know why our troop does not camp very often. I do know that the one campout they had was a maybe until the night before, on account of the need for leadership. Our cub and 11 year old boy scout programs are combined with a neighboring church's program, in order to have enough boys and leaders. When that began, our most recent former scout master (he moved out of state) had been the cub master and had stated that it would also be good to combine the regular scout troop with another troop as well. I was the one to instigate the partnership with the 8-11 program. I hope I'm not known as a meddler or being a tattle tale. Camping for all the boys in my son's troop would be awesome. I know my son isn't the only one that desires to go camping or earn eagle.
  6. It is a case, where we feel obligated to have our son in our church's boy scout troop. They have activities on a weekly basis, but only two of those nights are for scouts. One night is to work on Duty to God (which is both a church award and a scout award). i think the other night is for the boys and girls to have a combined fun activity. It would be really odd for my son to join a boy scout troop that meets in the same building at the same time, but isn't ours. Someone in here (or several someones) said the boy didn't actually have to belong to the troop to go camping with them. Is that not correct? It is now the end of August. So far, other than residential camp, the troop has camped once this year. I asked a scout leader about the camporee I had heard they would attend. Apparently, that has been nixed because they don't want to drive an hour. If the troop continues this practice of camping once a year, son will age out of scouts before earning the camping merit badge. So will all the other boys. I don't know what there plan is if they even have one. I worry that they'll fudge things, by counting multiple residential camps. Son really does want to go camping with boy scouts. It's not me (Okay, it's also nice to have him gone for a couple days.) P.S. Although not a scout position, there are leadership positions in the boys' organization at church. My son is an assistant to the president. It seems very important that he participate in our church's weekly activities. If ever the community troop in the works comes to fruition, he can attend that. It's supposed to be held on a day/time that actually works for us.
  7. We had planned for him to join a community troop, but we've proven weekly for the last month that the day/time of a second boy scout meeting is not going to work for our family. It's a very bad day and time. There is another community troop in the works, but it's been in the works for 8 months now, so not sure if it'll ever come to fruition. I was going to advise my son to contact the other scoutmasters in our church area. (We have 8 or so of what are called wards in our stake area.) It would seem most reasonable to just ask them about joining up for camping. I do not know if they camp on a monthly basis or not, but I suspect at least one of them does.
  8. christineka

    Path To Save Bsa?

    Good news- We were told today at a meeting with a "high ranking authority" in the church that the LDS church will continue their sponsorship of BSA. The gay leader thing is not a problem, since sex is not a part of Boy Scouting. I do sincerely hope, however, that LDS scout leaders will get the training they need and the desire to run the program as it should be, so that it is a positive experience for our boys.
  9. christineka

    Path To Save Bsa?

    Most of the kids also attend public school, too. The kids see all kinds of things there. I've heard and read complaints from lds about lds scouting for years before now. There are even blog posts about it. Many lds wanted out of scouting before this ruling.
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    Path To Save Bsa?

    This came across my facebook feed today. It's not just me, saying LDS parents want to ditch the scouting program. http://utahpolicy.com/index.php/features/today-at-utah-policy/6694-poll-majority-of-utah-mormons-want-lds-church-to-leave-the-boy-scouts My question is: If we ditch bsa on account of the flaky way it's being implemented at the local level, will anything change if the church comes up with some other program? It will be the same leaders! The LDS church embraced boy scouts shortly after it came to America- way back in the early 1900s. I understand things were less regulated back then. It was a different time. The ideals of boy scouts do match up with what we want for our young men. I think problems come with boys and leaders being expected to join, rather than volunteering/joining of their own desire.
  11. christineka

    Path To Save Bsa?

    As far as I understand it, the LDS church is re-evaluating their participation in bsa regarding the way the vote was taken (when bsa knew they'd be out on vacation), rather than the outcome of the vote. The LDS members in general can't wait till the church pulls out of BSA and I think it has nothing to do with bsa allowing gay leaders and everything to do with the way the program is being run on the local church level in addition to the inequality between programs for boys and girls in the church. The girls from 8-18 get a wholly spiritual program, while the boys are told to do religious stuff at home. The girls are given almost no recognition and very few awards, while the boys are lavished with awards for everything they do. The boys get 5 times the budget the girls get, since scouting is so much more expensive than running a church program. Many lds parents would welcome the boys having a spiritual church-only program, rather than having to participate in Boy scouts. The ultra conservative lds homeschoolers, however, are concerned about their boys being in the vicinity of openly gay leaders while at scout camp. I have a hunch that all the parents of boys, who attend public school and participate in sports and other activities, realize their kids have probably already been exposed to openly gay people, as well as what's even worse- drugs, drinking, and open sexual acts.
  12. In my son's case it's that he's "supposed" to be a member of the church troop, but it sucks, so he is going to be in a traditional community troop as well.
  13. Are you sure? I've been told several times that a boy can be in two troops at the same time. Do you have a link to an official statement on this?
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    I wouldn't know- I've never tried it.
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    Uh, how the heck? I thought merit badge counselors were supposed to be "experts". If the counselor can't play, how does he know if the scout has played correctly?
  16. christineka

    Mormons Will Re-Evaluate Relationship With Bsa

    I think all this discussion on Trail Life is pointless. I'm fairly certain the LDS church is not going to want to be associated with another church's program for boys, especially one that requires a statement of faith. As an LDS, I never can join the groups with those faith statements because my faith does not line up with theirs. The LDS church does already have a program for boys under age 12, who do not have the option to join a cub scout program. It's the same as their program for Girls: Activity Days. The older boys already have an organization. They attend mutual weekly. Boy scouts is just two weeks of the month of their mutual activities. They could easily drop the scout part. They would then have more time to work on their Duty to God award. (I know it is neglected at my church. I've not known any boy to receive it, yet there are three different awards for the different aged boys.) As an LDS member, I, personally, would rather have the church focus on the Spiritual stuff and then my son can be a boy scout in a non-denominational community troop.
  17. christineka

    Mormons Will Re-Evaluate Relationship With Bsa

    I think there's some overlap in there. Kids are in primary until their 12th birthday, which is why 11 year old lds scouts are kept separate from the 12+
  18. christineka

    Limit Merit Badges At Summer Camp?

    I encouraged my son to take camp type badges, but also let him make his own choices. It didn't help that our troop was not on top of things and signed up late, so the options were not so many. he took lifesaving, basketry, archery, rifle shooting, wilderness survival, archaeology, and art. He could have done archaeology and art at home, but he managed to get them done at camp (and before, since they had pre-requisites.)
  19. christineka

    Limit Merit Badges At Summer Camp?

    I looked at the list of merit badges available at camp and was surprised what was on the list. I never was a boy scout, but was a girl scout, and did attend a boy scout family camp every spring for years. I think camp should be full of fun camp kinds of stuff- like boating, swimming, hiking, backpacking, rock climbing, nature and nature-y type stuff, shooting sports, as well as the typical camp crafts, like leather work or basketry. I let my son choose what he wished, though. I expected partials. He has now completed all camp badges, except archery, which he may just have to retake at camp until he gets it. At girl scout camp I earned badges, too, but was having so much fun in the outdoors, I didn't know I was earning them and really didn't care either.
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    Order Of The Arrow Requirements

    I talked to one scout's mom to see if there were any more campouts than what I'd known about. She said there weren't (and her son even camped one less night than my son, due to being sick.), but she also wants to know about more campouts that her son can go on. It seems very wrong for a scout troop to go on one, non-residential campout within 6 months. I have a feeling scoutmaster has no idea what order of the arrow is all about and just nominated several boys, not telling them what they were getting into. I will ask son how that went.
  21. Just curious if requirements have changed (I found them for 2009) or where one can find the real requirements. My husband looked at wikipedia, thinking that would be most up to date. What I read said the boy must have 15 boy scout camp day/nights, 6 of which can be consecutive. Wikepedia just said 15 nights. Which is right? Curious because 3 of the 12 year old boys in son's troop did Order of the Arrow at camp. They've had 3-9 boy scout camp nights. (My boy was too busy practicing his rifle shooting to go for Order of the Arrow. I told him that was fine- he can do that later, whenever or if he wants.)
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    One of the requirements to earn the bugling merit badge is to be the troop bugler for 3 months. I recommend appointing kid to troop bugler after he is somewhat proficient on the instrument, not when he begins work on the badge, if he has never played a brass instrument before.
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    Thanks for bringing up the mouthpiece! I bought a rexcraft bugle and tried playing it. I wondered what was wrong with me, because the tone sounded awful. Then, I tried a regular trumpet mouthpiece and it was pretty good. (The rexcraft bugle still has some intonation issues.) I later bought a Mogul replica bugle. Again, the mouthpiece that came with it was garbage and made playing difficult. A standard trumpet mouthpiece makes it a nice instrument. (It can play the lowest bugle ton for "Call to Quarters", but is pitched at b-flat, so harder for a beginner to play.)
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    Cub Scouts Lasts Too Long

    My older boy went through the program. (Wolf-Arrow of Light) Now it's my little boy's turn. I was a little bored with it, because I'd already done wolf, but the program has now changed, so it'll be a new adventure for Bears on. My boys have very different personalities. My older son is a "getter done" kinda kid. (Or he was, before he turned into a lazy tween.) Little boy wants to get it done, but he has some pretty bad attention deficit issues, which makes getting it done difficult.
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    Cooking Mb At Summer Camp

    My son "earned" the cooking merit badge at camp last year and then it was awarded. I had no idea, until recently what this badge entailed. I didn't go to camp. I didn't see what he did. I highly doubt he actually earned that award, but it's done with now. He got signed off and awarded the badge.